Hi Shawn Classroom #1 for OSL... TAB

[Shawn R. L.]

I\'m most always ready. Bring \'em on.

 

[war0827]

Hey Shawn, I\'m painted this FIG right now doing NMM. Once he\'s done, I\'m going to try to attempt OSL from his hammer (not on mini yet). Also, I\'m thinking about changing his hand to hold a sword or something. Kind of making him look like he\'s saluting with the sword right before battle. And I want to have that weapon glowing with OSL as well. Any pointers on how I can achieve this easily?

What I kind of have in mind is that the sword will glow towards the right side of the figure slightly blending with the other OSL coming from the hammer on the other side of the mini. I\'m also guessing that your OSL mini with metallics is something that I might be using against his NMM armor...?

Any ideas would help also.

 

[Shawn R. L.]

@war0827 I havent forgotten you, just some \'family issues being dealt with.

 

[war0827]

hey shawn....no problem. hope all is well with family. I can wait....I still have alot of painting to do before the OSL stage.

 

[Shawn R. L.]

OK. You asked if there was an easy way to do the OSL...good news, there is! Being that I am now bucking some of the accepted painting trends here I will use what is usually thought of as a naughty term - dry brushing.

Step one. Read the OSL article and get familiar with the subject, terms and concepts.

If I understand your idea correctly, you are going to have two light sources. One being the hammer in the fig\'s left hand and the other being the sword in the fig\'s right hand. Like I always say in this thread, paint the source of the light pure white. Paint the rest of the mini as you normally would BUT try to keep the rest of the colors a touch darker and just a little duller than you normally would.....not much, it really dosent take much in this way to make the \'trick\' work. When doing highlighting and NMM dont have any areas that are white. You can hightlight quite a bit, just dont go quite as far as normal.


Refer to the early part of the article where I explain how to project where the light will fall and not fall. Mix the color that you want the light to be, say, blue, with a bit of white. Dont go so far as to make a light, baby blue or so little as to have a deep blue but a middle of the road blue. Sorry I cant be more specific than that. Now, using a small (not tiny) short haired brush drybrush on a thin coat of the blue you end up with on the areas you want the light to fall on. Try to hit a balance where the blue definately shows up but the color undreneath also shows through. Try that and post some WIP\'s.

 

[war0827]

thanks shawn....a little confused the first time i read it, but the second time made it more clear. I will definately post up progress of the mini, but i\'m still debating the position of the hammer so it\'ll be awhile before i know where the light source is coming from....???

i\'ll keep you posted

 

[demonherald]

Hi Shawn awesome thread..Just wondering do you know of any examples of models with OSL over a freehand design..I will try aand get a WIP pic on here in the next day or too but basic idea is a backbanner on a model with a fairly complex and coloured freehand design is affected by the light source..I\'m considering mixing shades of the unlit design in with the light colour????
anyway any help prticularly examples would be a great help.
My first proper attempt at OSL and I\'ve set myself up for a few probs.. all good fun.

 

[demonherald]

okey dokey here\'s a pic of the model so far ..My photography is a little sucky but it gives the general idea.

The banner is the one Azrael always carries but as you can see this is gonna be affected by the Light source so was wondering two things.

1. Where would the light fall on the banner???? If possible bit of photoshop jigger pokery would be good.

2. Regards painting the blue OSL over different colors on the banner to keep the freehand design showing any hints.

so far used A darkblue almost black mix. Then added a turquoise finishing off with white.Gone for quite a large area of coverage but more to practise the technique.Also decided to do the bottom of the base Lavaish...Any help much appreciated..

Rob

 

[Shawn R. L.]

What you have done so far is good....BUT, needs a little adjusting. Rule of thumb when doing OSL is that the source of the light is ALWAYS the brightest area (there are some small exceptions but I can address that if it comes up. Look at the bottom of my article and notice the picture with the coencentric circles and read that part - it applies to the lighting you have already done.

As far as the banner and the freehand goes, firstly, you seem to do quite well with projectint where the light will fall. Do the same with the banner remembering like I directed above, the principal of the part in the article with the circles.

Some of this depends on how much work you want to go to and how framiliar you are with the whole OSL thing and painting in general. A simple, yet effictive way to do the design on the banner would be to first, using white, project where the light will fall AND NOT FALL and paint white where appropriate. Next paint the freehand normally, lightening up the colors and tones JUST A BIT. The dark areas, Do as normal, just darkening things A BIT. When your done with that take a very thin blue (if that\'s the color of light you are implying) and do a wash over JUST THE LIT SIDE. Blend between the dark and light side appropriately.

Do that stuff and re-post.

 

[demonherald]

cool will do that Shawn...At the moment is still fairly earl stages was thinking after I have the other details on the model in place I will start to thin glaze the original blue darkening on the outer edges in the concentric circles you mention. Does that sound like the best way???
Also the Light on the tip of the combi weapon is on a NMM bit I sort of thought this would pick up the light a little brighter due to the metallic surface?????? as I say first real attempt at this but really enjoying it..cheers for the help update will come as I progress....
will also try sort a black background as theamount of blue is currently a bit distracting...

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Originally posted by demonherald
cool will do that Shawn...At the moment is still fairly earl stages was thinking after I have the other details on the model in place I will start to thin glaze the original blue darkening on the outer edges in the concentric circles you mention. Does that sound like the best way???

*****Sounds like that should work----------further from the source, darker, duller.


Also the Light on the tip of the combi weapon is on a NMM bit I sort of thought this would pick up the light a little brighter due to the metallic surface??????

*****I understand what your saying. For the moment, forget that it\'s a metal surface. Put the wash over it and shade it as if it werent being lit by a strong light source. There\'s a cool trick you can do as the very last thing that will make it absolutely sparkle.

*****REMEMBER, AT THIS POINT THERE IS TO BE NO WHITE OTHER THAN AT THE LIGHT SOURCE



as I say first real attempt at this but really enjoying it..cheers for the help update will come as I progress....
will also try sort a black background as theamount of blue is currently a bit distracting...

*****It would be good to see, side by side, a shot with the same exposure and settings except that one has a black background and the other has a neutral background.

*****Glad your having fun!! I still really get a kick out of OSL.

 

[DaN]

Some more Wolf WIPs

Not sure anymore if I can do OSL on this WIP... But here are some more WIPs anyway... What do you think...?

(There are still some extra parts to add to the base for interest, and I think the wolf still has areas left to finish (Beside any OSL!!))

WALL 1

WALL 2

WALL 3

FULL 1

FULL 2

FULL 3

So, like I say - I don\'t know if it\'s still possible to actually do OSL on this guy, but if not I\'d appreciate your opinion anyway

Cheers

 

[Shawn R. L.]

You could do OSL on his piece....but.. you have it almost finished non OSL and it would mean some big changes and quite a bit of work. What you have right now looks good. BTW, did Warren Zevon influence your choice in buildings? - \"Saw a werewolf with a Chineese menu in his hand.......\"

 

[DaN]

Argh - don\'t give the clues away Shawn!!

Well spottted, but Shhh!!!

How about just having a very slight amount of lighting from the shop doorway...?

As though the scene is already lit by, say, streetlamps, and just have a small glow from the doorway, maybe picking up a little on the back of the werewolf

DaN

 

[war0827]

The whole scene looks great. Love the brick and stone work. which way is the street lamp lighting from? the right side?

@ Shawn: Sorry I haven\'t been able to put up any more WIP recently. Been extremely busy with work and just haven\'t had the time to paint.
But I know that you guys will always be here to help even if I posted later on.

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Originally posted by DaN
Argh - don\'t give the clues away Shawn!!

Well spottted, but Shhh!!!

How about just having a very slight amount of lighting from the shop doorway...?

As though the scene is already lit by, say, streetlamps, and just have a small glow from the doorway, maybe picking up a little on the back of the werewolf

DaN

What you could do is to not paint the light but paint the dark. A simple way to get some light effect would be to put a rather substantial blue wash over everywhere that the light IS NOT. Leave the window of the door and the side of the werewolf (and his \'perfect\' hair) as is. You might even put a bit of a yellow wash ovet the areas that are lit. Gotta get some beef chowmein now...

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Originally posted by war0827
The whole scene looks great. Love the brick and stone work. which way is the street lamp lighting from? the right side?

@ Shawn: Sorry I haven\'t been able to put up any more WIP recently.

Nothing to apologise to me for. You just take things at your own pace..... Lord willing and the creeks dont rise I\'ll still be here \'lightin\' things up\'!!

Been extremely busy with work and just haven\'t had the time to paint.
But I know that you guys will always be here to help even if I posted later on.

 

[darkartminiatures]

Double trouble. Heres what I\'ve been working on in between other work. I know it not true OSL but it does have some elements to it. Maybe theres also surrounding light....well thats my story anyways still wip btw

 

[Shawn R. L.]

WOW!!! OSL or not, that\'s some fantastic work!!

 

[darkartminiatures]

Thanks Shawn. I thought you would of had a thousand and one things to tell me what was wrong with them phew... Yeah as you can see the osl is only minimal really as i still wanted to paint some of the objects quite bright in contrast with the dark armour. I tried to give them a happy medium.