MathewBaich
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well, with the grot I dea, I couldn\'t imagine that it would stick like bubble gum. I like the idea of placing it int the footprit instead, that would also be the easier route.
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RedSevenBlue
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I like the new base plan. oh yes, and btw, nice kitchen lol
jamsessionein
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I gotta tell you guys, working with this foamboard stuff to make ruins is harder than I would have thought. I\'d appreciate any suggestions or advice on this sort of thing!
There\'s two footprints - one with the grot, and the other on the very top edge of the base. That \'low!\' comment written on the board is so that I remember to keep the wall section at that height basically knocked-in - some rubble and bits of wall will be strewn towards the center, where the gargant is, but mostly it\'ll just be knee-high wall left. I need to make 4 more sections of gothic-esque wall, then buttress and detail them.. I\'ve no idea how the detailing\'s going to work. Also, I assume I have to seal the foam with some sort of watered down elmer\'s glue..? I\'m not really interested in melting the thing when I spray prime it
I got a street-paving \'kit\' thing from my local hobby store meant for dioramas - it\'s a brush-on asphault texture sort\'ve thing.. I think I\'m going to lay the street down, then the curb, then build the rest of the diorama\'s base up to match the curb\'s level.Any general construction tips would be appreciated, in any case.
RedSevenBlue
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you can always use some balsa wood for some of the terrain.
RedSevenBlue
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correct bill, your a smart young lad, unlike that mick friend of yours. lol j/k
AinuLainour
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J/K? Leave out that part, and it\'d be an accurate statment
funnymouth
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Originally posted by AinuLainour
J/K? Leave out that part, and it\'d be an accurate statment
burrrrrrrrrrrrn!
anyhow....for your base you could try something similar to what i did with the display base that im working on in this thread. its an easy way to generate foundational texture to which you can add other items - just make impresstions in the clay before you cure it and you can set your walls right in to it. it would also work well for your footprint idea, beacuse you could actually make an impression.
jamsessionein
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So this has been an interesting experiment. I\'ve never done any large-scale basing, so of course jumping in with both feet for a diorama is leaving me a bit surprised with every attempt, but I\'m not dissapointed in it yet.
I found some putty-esque substance in my garage, as I was looking for interesting material to do the base over with.. I put the curb and sidewalk, and proceeded to heap some of this stuff on and then start shaping it with a sponge brush and my hands into some rough geography. The pictures don\'t quite show off any tremendous contours, but I didn\'t want to get too adventurous seeing as I don\'t have the walls that\'ll be going in yet. I\'ll hopefully be going out to try and get one of the new imperial cities of death buildings tomorrow to turn into rubble and wrecked building walls, as my attempts with foamboard have proven frustrating and unfruitful throughout the course of the day. I\'m about to go down into the garage and try and drill a hole in the circular base where the main front foot is going to be standing - I\'ll probably \'pin\' it with a thick nail or something of that nature. I\'m also hoping to put a slight elevation on that foot - it\'ll dip into the ground at the toe, to show that it\'s \'digging in\' to take it\'s next step as it moves forward, and will elevate the back foot up a bit to prevent it from \'dragging\' as the gargant walks. I\'m hoping all the extra rubble and walls and stuff I want to add in won\'t be too challenging - I figure worst comes to worst I can dremel myself an adequate space in the putty once it hardens, add extra rubble in (or the walls, if I didn\'t leave enough room), and re-putty around it.
Interesting so far.
I found some putty-esque substance in my garage, as I was looking for interesting material to do the base over with.. I put the curb and sidewalk, and proceeded to heap some of this stuff on and then start shaping it with a sponge brush and my hands into some rough geography. The pictures don\'t quite show off any tremendous contours, but I didn\'t want to get too adventurous seeing as I don\'t have the walls that\'ll be going in yet. I\'ll hopefully be going out to try and get one of the new imperial cities of death buildings tomorrow to turn into rubble and wrecked building walls, as my attempts with foamboard have proven frustrating and unfruitful throughout the course of the day. I\'m about to go down into the garage and try and drill a hole in the circular base where the main front foot is going to be standing - I\'ll probably \'pin\' it with a thick nail or something of that nature. I\'m also hoping to put a slight elevation on that foot - it\'ll dip into the ground at the toe, to show that it\'s \'digging in\' to take it\'s next step as it moves forward, and will elevate the back foot up a bit to prevent it from \'dragging\' as the gargant walks. I\'m hoping all the extra rubble and walls and stuff I want to add in won\'t be too challenging - I figure worst comes to worst I can dremel myself an adequate space in the putty once it hardens, add extra rubble in (or the walls, if I didn\'t leave enough room), and re-putty around it.
Interesting so far.
MathewBaich
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what a mess. Looks good so far just don\'t melt the foam ruins!lol
To be honest I\'m not dead keen on the base so far. It is far too flat for my liking. I think that some more undulations will make it look a lot more natural. Just a bit of chopped up polystyrene in places smoothed off and the gaps plugged with filler would do it.
As for the wall bits and rubble, would the new cityfight bits be worth considering? You could chop them up and insert details, windows and doors into a balsa and polystyrene frame.
As for the wall bits and rubble, would the new cityfight bits be worth considering? You could chop them up and insert details, windows and doors into a balsa and polystyrene frame.
AinuLainour
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It was cool! But anyways, the base looks pretty \'interesting\', I guess we\'ll need some pics of the more developed version soon.
jamsessionein
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There\'s one major problem with Imperial Guard.
Deys too easy ta crush!!
I did the gargant\'s gaming base up. Hopefully they\'ll be rock-hard when they dry by tomorrow, but I have a sneaking suspicion they\'ll be a bit crumbly around the edges and need some sort of reinforcing coat of.. something. Maybe watered down elmer\'s. I tried to match the contours of the diorama base\'s geography on the gaming base.
Please also note that since these pictures went up, I noticed mold lines I missed and cleaned them up.
The rubble per square inch factor is about the same as I hope to have on the final diorama base, once I get walls set up and figure out how they\'ll crumble (and make suitable plasticard tiles). The guardsman\'s reaching out to his running buddy(s) for help, as his lower half is pinned beneath the gargant. One can only assume he\'s having a bad day.
You can see the stepped spot in the footprint - this is to angle the gargant forward about 10 degrees, and lift the back leg up into the air a touch so it\'s not dragging. It\'s also a good effect for the gargant walking anyway, as I imagine the foot digs in at the toe to lever the whole monster forward.
There\'ll be some spilling sand around the sandbags to suggest they\'ve been knocked over - I didn\'t want to do that on the base at the moment, as only the bottom layer would stick to the paste I\'m using. I drilled a hole through the gargant\'s foot and the base - when I\'m ready to attach the gargant down to the gaming base for good, a screw\'ll do the job nicely and thread into the foot to hold it securely down to the gaming base. A screw covered in glue, most likely. But I think I\'m going to paint the base first before I make any final attachments like that, as reaching underneath the gargant to drybrush terrain isn\'t my idea of fun. For now, I\'ll use a nail to pin the gargant - that is, when everything\'s had a chance to dry overnight.
I think this has been a successful first go at something bigger than an infantry base. Or, will be, when I get some imperial building walls to stake in there. And the thousand other things I want to do. >_>
Comments, advice, crits, whatever welcome.
Deys too easy ta crush!!
I did the gargant\'s gaming base up. Hopefully they\'ll be rock-hard when they dry by tomorrow, but I have a sneaking suspicion they\'ll be a bit crumbly around the edges and need some sort of reinforcing coat of.. something. Maybe watered down elmer\'s. I tried to match the contours of the diorama base\'s geography on the gaming base.
Please also note that since these pictures went up, I noticed mold lines I missed and cleaned them up.
The rubble per square inch factor is about the same as I hope to have on the final diorama base, once I get walls set up and figure out how they\'ll crumble (and make suitable plasticard tiles). The guardsman\'s reaching out to his running buddy(s) for help, as his lower half is pinned beneath the gargant. One can only assume he\'s having a bad day.
You can see the stepped spot in the footprint - this is to angle the gargant forward about 10 degrees, and lift the back leg up into the air a touch so it\'s not dragging. It\'s also a good effect for the gargant walking anyway, as I imagine the foot digs in at the toe to lever the whole monster forward.
There\'ll be some spilling sand around the sandbags to suggest they\'ve been knocked over - I didn\'t want to do that on the base at the moment, as only the bottom layer would stick to the paste I\'m using. I drilled a hole through the gargant\'s foot and the base - when I\'m ready to attach the gargant down to the gaming base for good, a screw\'ll do the job nicely and thread into the foot to hold it securely down to the gaming base. A screw covered in glue, most likely.
But I think I\'m going to paint the base first before I make any final attachments like that, as reaching underneath the gargant to drybrush terrain isn\'t my idea of fun. For now, I\'ll use a nail to pin the gargant - that is, when everything\'s had a chance to dry overnight.
I think this has been a successful first go at something bigger than an infantry base. Or, will be, when I get some imperial building walls to stake in there. And the thousand other things I want to do. >_>
Comments, advice, crits, whatever welcome.
AinuLainour
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Starting to take shape, nice work! The guardsman\'s pose and expression is PERFECT!!! I really like what you\'ve done with this so-called \'mini\' lol so far.
Will you be entering it at a GD?
Will you be entering it at a GD?
jamsessionein
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Originally posted by AinuLainour
Starting to take shape, nice work! The guardsman\'s pose and expression is PERFECT!!! I really like what you\'ve done with this so-called \'mini\' lol so far.
Will you be entering it at a GD?
Depends how well I paint it.
I\'d probably do it next year if I do, as all the good local competitions have passed me by.
Edit: A lot of the \'flatness\' I think lono\'s talking about is caused by the fact that none of the projecting structures (the walls, tiles, rubble, etc.) are on the diorama base yet. Also, a good deal of the gravel and sand I used for the base is the same color as the putty, so they don\'t stand out that well. There are some slopes and such on this, as I tried to show in the pictures. In any event, I hope I\'ll be able to make it better before I\'m done.
jamsessionein
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New Jersey, in the U.S.
It\'d work, but after having done the gaming base and littering it with debris I think the diorama base would be better suited with the remaining details.
