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No Such Agency
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Dictionary sez they mean the same thing \"to stop doing something\". I always assumed that \"C&D\" was just a common legal phrase, the body of the letter then specifying beyond doubt that one was to STOP, and not RESUME the activity afterwards.
Dragonsreach
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Trevor\'s got it about right.
As it\'s been explained to me
Cease is the instruction to stop immediatly, and Desist the instruction to not repeat or recommence the action.
As it\'s been explained to me
Cease is the instruction to stop immediatly, and Desist the instruction to not repeat or recommence the action.
Infidel Castro
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My mother used to tell me off and then give me \'the slipper\'. The same effect in many ways lol
DrEvilmonki
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There are all sorts of redundant sayings. I remeber seeing \"safe haven\" used widely during the first gulf war. Is that as opposed to an unsafe haven?
JonQuixote
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What you are talking about is tautology, a literary term to emphasise something by repeating it.
However, cease and desist, although similar, aren\'t the same and can be used together to represent stopping and not repeating as said earlier.
This Guy, selling stuff on ebay, what a Tosspot!
How he thought a hollow apology would stop CMoN people from getting angry is beyond me!
However, cease and desist, although similar, aren\'t the same and can be used together to represent stopping and not repeating as said earlier.
This Guy, selling stuff on ebay, what a Tosspot!
How he thought a hollow apology would stop CMoN people from getting angry is beyond me!
vincegamer
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My muttered condemnation of William the Conqueror was my obscure explanation.
I was taught in college that many of the legal dual phrases came from the time when William and his bunch of French speaking bullies took England from the English speaking bullies. You get dual terms in the law because they used the English and French words for things so everyone would know what they meant.
I am not sure this is the case for cease and desist, but it could be.
A non-legal example of the influence of the French speaking nobility over an English speaking work force is Beef and Cow. We eat beef but beef is just an anglicization of the French word for cow. The french speaking nobles only saw it on the table. The english speaking workers usually saw it as livestock.
I was taught in college that many of the legal dual phrases came from the time when William and his bunch of French speaking bullies took England from the English speaking bullies. You get dual terms in the law because they used the English and French words for things so everyone would know what they meant.
I am not sure this is the case for cease and desist, but it could be.
A non-legal example of the influence of the French speaking nobility over an English speaking work force is Beef and Cow. We eat beef but beef is just an anglicization of the French word for cow. The french speaking nobles only saw it on the table. The english speaking workers usually saw it as livestock.
Dragonsreach
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If I remember right Haven is an old word for Harbour or Anchorage, hence Safe Haven = Safe Anchorage.
DrEvilmonki
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Haven
1. sheltered place: a place sought for rest, shelter, or protection
a haven for wildlife
so by definition \"safe\" would be implied.
1. sheltered place: a place sought for rest, shelter, or protection
a haven for wildlife
so by definition \"safe\" would be implied.
darkartminiatures
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Damn thats taken me a long time to read.
Can\'t really add anything other than whats already been said. I don\'t think he will be selling stuff like this again....EVER
One thing that might happen in the future though is that other people who that bought a copy might start up selling it for a quick buck. Providing they don\'t know the wrath of Cmon
Can\'t really add anything other than whats already been said. I don\'t think he will be selling stuff like this again....EVER
One thing that might happen in the future though is that other people who that bought a copy might start up selling it for a quick buck.
Providing they don\'t know the wrath of Cmon 