Golden Demon/Games Day North America (Chicago 2011) aftermath
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Todd Swanson
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YYyYYyYYyYEEAGGH! The more Arnolds the better right? lol!
Hey Todd, are you going to get a voting link up for your Nurgle Marine? I have a 10 waiting around for it
Thanks Jeff!! It's nice to know someone will give me a ten
here is the linkhttp://www.coolminiornot.com/284535
And some pics of the greens that I had on display at the Demon View attachment 7355View attachment 7356View attachment 7357lounge.
crazyboyae1
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congrats to all the winners. wish i could have been there. hopefully see you all next year.
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Matt Cexwish
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Love that Pistol Nurgling... Must be super small...... Great Scratchbuilds overall, Congratulations...
... Great Scratchbuilds overall, Congratulations...
MightyChad
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10 from me. That thing is incredible, top to bottom. Now you just need to paint a follower from a different Chaos god.
rabblerouser
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Sometimes the judges make weird calls. A few years ago I received a silver when I really should have received a bronze. I remember the guy who received the bronze was pretty pissed off about it because his entry was clearly better than mine. Your paint job is great - I just don't like the conversion.
One thing to remember rabblerouser, is that the mini is not just the paint job. It is supposed to be a great example of the feel of the army. Nurgle guys should look nurgley, Orks should
look orky, etc. Maybe the judges felt that the the nurgle terminator somehow better represented the feel of the army, with the conversions and all. BTW, I am not judging anything here.
I thought both minis were cool, and I saw them both up close. I watched the judges for quite a while, and it was no easy feat picking the winners here. I can't imagine trying to pick the
"best" of anything.
One thing that did surprise me though, was the necron squad. All those guys climbing out of the sand, and not a grain got on them lol.
I also wonder why Dreadnoughts are part of the vehicle catagory and the Nemesis dreadnight is not? I always kinda thought that the walker should
have its own catagory. I guess I just found it strange that there were only 3 traditional tanks among the vehicle finalists. Oh well, I guess i'm just a tread head at heart lol. Mr. Hudon'sbike was awesome though, well deserving of the sword. And the grot tank was also deserved of the FW best of show. Better watch out though guys.....I'm coming for you next year lol
look orky, etc. Maybe the judges felt that the the nurgle terminator somehow better represented the feel of the army, with the conversions and all. BTW, I am not judging anything here.
I thought both minis were cool, and I saw them both up close. I watched the judges for quite a while, and it was no easy feat picking the winners here. I can't imagine trying to pick the
"best" of anything.
One thing that did surprise me though, was the necron squad. All those guys climbing out of the sand, and not a grain got on them lol.
I also wonder why Dreadnoughts are part of the vehicle catagory and the Nemesis dreadnight is not? I always kinda thought that the walker should
have its own catagory. I guess I just found it strange that there were only 3 traditional tanks among the vehicle finalists. Oh well, I guess i'm just a tread head at heart lol. Mr. Hudon'sbike was awesome though, well deserving of the sword. And the grot tank was also deserved of the FW best of show. Better watch out though guys.....I'm coming for you next year lol
MightyChad
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I have been thinking about that a while. Maybe because the Nemesis dreadknight has a living driver? And the Dreads are driven by a machine spirit, and centuries of HATE!?!?
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TrystanGST
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But why does Fantasy get one large category, and 40k gets two?
TheDrescher
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@ Chad and Beamo: Exactly my reasoning. I figured the Dreadknight has wounds vs. an armor value. I also checked the GD spain coverage and all the dreadknights were entered in 40k large so I figured I'd follow suit.
@ Todd: People kept asking me how you sculpted the nurglings when I was at the GD lounge. I just kept saying "uuuh, be good at sculpting. A lot better than I could ever hope to be at sculpting."
@ Wappelious: I will look for you on the battlefield, sir. That'd be a heck of a battle scene, our two armies squaring off. I give you fair warning now: beware the wrath of Team Motherf%^*in Sea Monster!
@ Todd: People kept asking me how you sculpted the nurglings when I was at the GD lounge. I just kept saying "uuuh, be good at sculpting. A lot better than I could ever hope to be at sculpting."
@ Wappelious: I will look for you on the battlefield, sir. That'd be a heck of a battle scene, our two armies squaring off. I give you fair warning now: beware the wrath of Team Motherf%^*in Sea Monster!
The wounds vs. armor value doesn't seem to hold true for everything though. A single bike goes in the vehicle category, but has no armor. But a squadron of bikers goes into the
squad category. Would a sorcerer mounted on a disc of tzeench be a vehicle? I'm not complaining, it's just sort of a funny observation. I guess if I were doing it, it would be...
single (which would include single bike mounted figs)
squad (of infantry, bikes, etc)
walker and monstrous creature (all drednoughts, orky dreds, warwalkers, giant bugs, dread knights, etc. with or without armor)
vehicle (Single vehicles, airplanes, monoliths, transports, what have you)
and strangely enough...I think an apocalypse "group" category would be neat. Like a squadron of superheavies, flyers, 101 green tide orks, etc. You could also use this as a catch all for
larger vehicle squadrons like tanks, killa kans, valkyries, etc.
squad category. Would a sorcerer mounted on a disc of tzeench be a vehicle? I'm not complaining, it's just sort of a funny observation. I guess if I were doing it, it would be...
single (which would include single bike mounted figs)
squad (of infantry, bikes, etc)
walker and monstrous creature (all drednoughts, orky dreds, warwalkers, giant bugs, dread knights, etc. with or without armor)
vehicle (Single vehicles, airplanes, monoliths, transports, what have you)
and strangely enough...I think an apocalypse "group" category would be neat. Like a squadron of superheavies, flyers, 101 green tide orks, etc. You could also use this as a catch all for
larger vehicle squadrons like tanks, killa kans, valkyries, etc.
@MightyChad: i hate to be a fluff nazi here, but Dreads have a living driver as well, just one that has been so wounded that he can only continue to fight by being wired into a dread...
GW has always had an odd policy on which minis get placed in which categories...
why does an Ork Warboss go in the Monster category instead of the Single???
surely if a Termie is a Single, then a Warboss should be as well...
they both go on the same size base!!!
the usual round of questionable choices by the judges seems to happen each year, too...
some great minis get overlooked, somethings get disqualified, and the order of the trophies awarded is always hotly debated...
my first thought when i saw The Sanguinor got Third was that it was probably because it was a stock mini, done with a paintjob that was straight from a Masterclass article...
as brilliant as the paintjob is, and it IS beautiful, it will be hard to compete against a well converted and painted mini in the judges' eyes...
personally, it's my favorite mini in that category, but i can see why it got Bronze...
cheers
jah
GW has always had an odd policy on which minis get placed in which categories...
why does an Ork Warboss go in the Monster category instead of the Single???
surely if a Termie is a Single, then a Warboss should be as well...
they both go on the same size base!!!
the usual round of questionable choices by the judges seems to happen each year, too...
some great minis get overlooked, somethings get disqualified, and the order of the trophies awarded is always hotly debated...
my first thought when i saw The Sanguinor got Third was that it was probably because it was a stock mini, done with a paintjob that was straight from a Masterclass article...
as brilliant as the paintjob is, and it IS beautiful, it will be hard to compete against a well converted and painted mini in the judges' eyes...
personally, it's my favorite mini in that category, but i can see why it got Bronze...
cheers
jah
MightyChad
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Because they only have Warmachines and Monsters, and if there had been a separate category for both, I may have had the only entry for Warmachine. SO they just combine the 2. That is my thinking.
Gah, fluff nazi. Sorry, I had forgotten about the Dread being a kind of life support system, and I am not that knowledgeable about the 40K universe.
TrystanGST
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OK, but technically 40k is just warmachines and monsters too. Except some of the warmachines end up in the monster category. Which is what got this whole thing started LOL
MightyChad
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Good point. But also consider that there are a lot more 40K entries, and a lot more variety of vehicles. Fantasy has chariots, a couple of wagons, and a Steam Tank. And they are rarely entered, compared to the big monsters. Also, if the wounds versus armor value holds true then as far as I know, the only thing in the Fantasy world that has any sort of armor value is buildings and the Steam Tank. I may be wrong, and probably am.
But with Warhammer Forge, we may start seeing more War Machines in the future.
What category a given piece supposed to go is often up to debate. Over the past several GDs I was participating in I solved this problem in a very simple way. If I have any doubt (and I often do) I simply ask the judge whether I can enter my miniature in a given category. Granted, it takes the entering decision out of your hands but it cuts off potential debates as well. Yes, in one case, I had to move a mini into a different category on judge's request.
I put up some additional picson my site - mostly of stuff that made cut but didnt place. THe pics arent great and do none of these models justice but at least share a few of the cool ideas and give a glimpse into some of the pieces that arent in the official coverage (at least thus far)
www.lostinthewarp.com
www.lostinthewarp.com
