10+ hours for 6 minis? What am I doing wrong?
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Going from the pictures, the metals are washed more than once, with more then one color wash.
The black on the weapons is not uniform (apart from the edge highlight)
and the red doesn't look like it's done with a brown wash...
and I'm not sure, but I'd say the highlights on the kneepads look like bleached bone... more pinkish than grey...
As I said, think outside the box.
some colors are more effectively shaded using something other than brown or black....
but that's going from the pictures, i don't have the original...
Sometimes pictures reveal more about a model than the real thing.
Greets Mourner
crystella333
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Which mini are you refering to? Tommies or -Ice?
Cos then we could give you a better answer then to what you're saying about it
Cos then we could give you a better answer then to what you're saying about it
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crystella333
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The black on the weapons could be Adeptus Battlegrey with a wash of Badad Black with an edge highlight of Space Wolf Grey. Red would most likely have been washed with Gryphonne Sepia as it darkens it without losing the red tone to the base coat.
I'd say if it had bleach bone possibly mixed with Fiery Orange to stop it going too pinky as that's what happens with just adding Skull White to the red
Yep he does use more than just brown or black ^^
Also would like to add the the chest piece looks like it has only had one coat of metal (Boltgun?) on it and so is not finished as of yet...but for 1.5 hours on the mini, its a good start for a TT mini
Thank you
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Tommie Soule
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Keep yer kecks on sukka!
1.5 hrs marine
Thought it'd be more convenient to have this pic closer at hand for you now that your educated and un educated guesses are coming in. Tho just guessing defeats the point of this exercise if you don't explain why you gave the answer you gave. Keep em coming.
I thought the point of this excersise was to have -Ice figure it out, I was giving out as little info as i could manage.
If you want, I can have a go at the answers, but I'd figured I'd let -Ice do that and just give him a hint he'd missed something, so he could take another look at it.
very well, let's give him a spoiler:
The gunmetal,
There's more color here than what one layer of Badab Black can achieve.
I'd say he painted it metallic (I'd use Boltgun, but this could also be Chainmail)
Followed by several successive layers of washes, I'd guess: Badab Black, Ogryn Flesh (or Devlan mud, but DM is a bit darker than OF...) and something like blue...
And finally re-highlighted with Chainmail
Is that what you meant?
also -Ice, you might try and discern in which order the colors were done and why. I can see some little mistakes, run-offs and other indications.
As you already surmised, a big part of painting effectively (and thus quickly) is not having to paint the same color over and over again.
Tommies mini was painted very effectively, with a number of mistakes not being cleaned up, because he doesn't have to, you don't register them as mistakes until you look more closely..
Which is basicly what tabletop is about. looking good until you look more closely.
Improving on this mini would mean cleaning those mistakes and and run-offs
As you already surmised, a big part of painting effectively (and thus quickly) is not having to paint the same color over and over again.
Tommies mini was painted very effectively, with a number of mistakes not being cleaned up, because he doesn't have to, you don't register them as mistakes until you look more closely..
Which is basicly what tabletop is about. looking good until you look more closely.
Improving on this mini would mean cleaning those mistakes and and run-offs
Tommie Soule
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this thread is for everybody, ice has the original, which i think is personal enough for him.
as far as who is right and wrong goes, i'm not saying......yet.
but i will say this, if you have a theory there is only one way to PROVE if it works and that is to try it.
you all have the pic, you all have the time limit (from construction to complete)
off yer pop.
as far as who is right and wrong goes, i'm not saying......yet.
but i will say this, if you have a theory there is only one way to PROVE if it works and that is to try it.
you all have the pic, you all have the time limit (from construction to complete)
off yer pop.
GolemPS
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The mini was done in an hour and a half! why are you adding lots of stages to such a small portion of the model
Boltgun metal, one black wash, hairdryer. (maybe a highlight at the at the end, at the most)
as I said, there's more color on there than just badab black, the metal has a reddish cast, I'd still say he used a brown wash.
I see black in the shades, and brown(-ish red) on the surfaces.
and somehow the metal "feels" blue, but that could also be slight overbrush from the grey...
1,5 hours sounds like a rediculous amount of time for 2-3 layers of washes, but remember, you could have a hairdryer close-by.
Or... you can go on working on a seperate area.
or use more diluted washes (or glazes)...
Tommie Soule
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fanai
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I am a fast painter - but I have discovered that I now spend time on the Front line of a warhammer regt or the sgt's& commanders in 40k as this then makes them stand out - I used to try and do every figure to be a competition entry but rank and file are that - I am still trying to get the balance right but 10 40k figure a week is a good number - I have done more but that was for commision work that needed it urgently
so enjoy - don't overpaint but also try all the new techniques and experiment - then instead of being a gw clone you will develop into some of the painters here - master of that art of minis (definitely not me as I am aging and so are my eyes and I don't see anywhere as well as I did 10,20 years ago
Ian
so enjoy - don't overpaint but also try all the new techniques and experiment - then instead of being a gw clone you will develop into some of the painters here - master of that art of minis (definitely not me as I am aging and so are my eyes and I don't see anywhere as well as I did 10,20 years ago
Ian
fieldarchy
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6 minis in 10 hours? There's a problem with that speed????? I think you are doing just fine if you are managing to get that much done in that time. For my TT stuff it still takes me about 3 hours and the main objective is to get a nice clean paint job with very little emphasis on highlights or shadows.
Keep plugging away at painting, you'll get your speed up though. It comes with time.
Keep plugging away at painting, you'll get your speed up though. It comes with time.
Tommie Soule
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Well i'm very surprised there are no more potential methods left as a solution!
GolemPS
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I dont think its a matter of being right or wrong.
I dont think it even matters what paint you use.
There is more than one method to painting that eye on that space marine - its not the colours or the method which are the important bit, there is no right, no wrong, its what you do would do to get that end result, an end result that looks good. Might be different to what Tommie did, to what anyone else would do - but as look as your comfortable with it an it looks good....then you on to a winner.
So yes, loctus, i would say, in some way, your right, but so is everyone else.
I dont think it even matters what paint you use.
There is more than one method to painting that eye on that space marine - its not the colours or the method which are the important bit, there is no right, no wrong, its what you do would do to get that end result, an end result that looks good. Might be different to what Tommie did, to what anyone else would do - but as look as your comfortable with it an it looks good....then you on to a winner.
So yes, loctus, i would say, in some way, your right, but so is everyone else.
