Yeti’s Guild Ball WIP

YetiSA

YetiSA

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Back to your scheduled programming...

It's been a while since my last painting update because I haven't had a lot of time to paint recently. I have however been plodding with on Stave when I have a free moment and am getting pretty close to a finished product.
I've shaded the tartan, added the hip barrels and put some detail into the beer (which we'll come back to). I've also re-highlighted the skin because the hair had taken it all down to a bland mid-tone. I think the hair looks quite a lot better with a little flesh tone wash over the top of it too.
Back to the beer... I'm not completely happy but I'm not sure what to do about it. It's supposed to be a darkish ale that is foaming as it sprays (in the game the thrown barrel knocks people flying so it must be strong stuff... it's also flammable). The foam is intentionally distinct from the main beer rather blended into it... I did have a reference image for that but can't find it to show you :/
What would people suggest? I'm not really happy the way it is but don't know what to do about it.

Other than that he's just about done. I've got a few touch ups to do (like the stitches and plasters) but that's more or less it. With a bit of luck I'll have him in my gallery by the end of the week.

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In other news, my Scale Colour Metal and Alchemy Steel set just arrived and I'm excited to try it. I used the speed metal to put shine points onto Stave's metal and quite enjoyed working with it... Now I need to find myself something covered in armour to really test them!
 
wargamesculptor

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Nice progress, for the ale I would leave the white off as all the pictures I can see show just the liquid colour when being poured.
What you could do is paint it all ale coloured, then using a sponge stipple a small amount of froth in places, hope this helps
 
BloodASmedium

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I agree with the above comment bud. It's easy to fix , but what I would do is very thunned glazes of brow and yellow inks/glazes/washes to tie it all into that ale color . Be ause they are thinned they would have the white and froth show through and look a little les abrupt. I'm adding some advice , but your the artist . If you feel it's not going to match the image of the model I'm your minds eye, then disregard. But when people offer advice that's good. That means the model one is working on is turning out perfect and we want you to finish strong buddy.;) really great job.
 
YetiSA

YetiSA

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Cheers gents.
I sort of suspected that would be the response. I did like the idea of a big frothy spray but it doesn't look particular good the way I've got it. I was thinking of taking it back to a base coat and starting it again but I think you're right BAM, glazing over the top of that could end up with a frothy feel after all.
 
YetiSA

YetiSA

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Updated beer spray.
Using a series of glazes I took it right down to a dark red/brown... but it was too dark so I brought it back up a little. The intention was just to highlight the tips, leaving the depths to the dark colour but apparently I didn't do that very well. Ah well, I'm a lot happier with it now. It fits my image of frothing beer pouring out of the barrel at pressure and doesn't have that funny two tone effect the previous version did.

Thoughts?

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YetiSA

YetiSA

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Thanks for the input WGS.
I've varnished him now, so all that is left is basing and a photoshoot. Unfortunately that will have to wait for Sunday as I'm away for the weekend.
 
BloodASmedium

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Rem :painting is always a back and fourth battle on certain parts of a mini...example the face or froth :) when I add tonal variations in the face I may to rehighlight and when that's not good enough I may have to repeat until desired effect is reached...part of the process.
 
YetiSA

YetiSA

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Finally got the big guy finished and in the gallery.
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That also brought to a close the Season 1 Brewers team.
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You can find them in the gallery here
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I actually posted them last night but haven't had a chance to post here yet... apparently that doesn't stop BAM and Maenas though, they found them without a link. :p Thanks for the comments gents.


Thanks too for everyone who has given me input and encouragement along the way. I've had fantastic fun painting them with you guys.


Now it's onto my flesh competition entry (hope I still have enough time) and Gandalf, who I am really looking forward to.
 
YetiSA

YetiSA

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Time for something new...

So I had a pretty major painting breakthrough in July last year, just before I started posting here in fact.

Before that I had been painting with unthinned paints, shading with a heavy wash and highlighting with rough layer work and a little drybrushing. The results weren't bad, but I was looking for more.
I tried thinning my paint, but it didn't work for me (in retrospect I was thinning too much).
I tried two brush blending but quickly realised that I wasn't ready for it yet.
I then tried shading with glazes because someone on the Guild Ball forum had mentioned it, but the pigment separated too much and it just pooled in the crevices like a wash.

I took my woes to Dr. Google and came up with a product called Flow Improver. Of course I had no idea how to use it and started mixing it directly with the paints. Aside from the fact that my tongue went numb and I started smelling colours, I was very happy with the results (the skin and shirt wer done pre FI, everthing else with it).
Suddenly I had the ability to blend smoothly and I got very excited about painting again. While working on my next model I found that paint mixed with pure FI took forever to dry, and never dried at all if there were too many layers. I learnt this the hard way when I washed all the highlights off his arms while trying to correct the other problem it was causing... shine. So I read the instructions and starting using a mixture of FI and water, which gave me most of the smoothness of the pure FI and counteracted most of the problems... I also stopped licking my brushes!

That's about the time I started posting here.

Stoker sat at 6.8 in the gallery for a long time before finally creeping over the line to a 7... my first 7. With each model since then (and with a lot of guidance from this forum) I've got a little more confidence and got little more comfortable with paints and the consistencies that I need for certain tasks. My brush control has improved with practice, meaning that I have to do far less clean up than I used to. Six months later, I now have two individual minis on 7.9 and the overall team is sitting at 8.2... although I'm sure that I can attribute a lot of that to the generosity of you good people!

Anyway, back to my point. I am now relatively comfortable with the techniques that I have been using and am ready to expand my arsenal. My biggest problems with the layering/glazing is that it takes a very long time to get a decent blend and is difficult to use to build really bright hightlight. So I'm looking for something that will give me a similar (or better) smoothness but will take a little less time and give me more control of where I'm going.

The two options I'm considering at the moment are two brush blending (I think I'm ready to give it another shot) and the loaded brush technique that TenBall used on that awesome chaos sorcerer. I am also open to other suggestions.
Before I select one and start poking it with a brush however, I'd love to get a little input from you guys.
What do you use?
What would you recommend to a relative newbie like myself?
Do you have any particular tutorials that I can take a look at? (I'm not afraid of research but if there are any in particular you'd recommend that would be great)

tl;dr: yay progress, long way to go... now I need your help! :p
 
Sicks

Sicks

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Im personally still on the layering +glazing method,like yourself I've tried other methods but that was a while ago and I was likely getting ahead of myself, however I did have some success with wet blending, I'm interested to see people's opinions too because at the moment the amount of layers I end up doing to get smoother blends is effecting the smoothness of the paint job so it might be time to try to advance

I don't know of any specific guides as such but the sticky thread in the painting section is a good place to start, sadly some of the links no longer work but there's a wealth of knowledge collected there
 
YetiSA

YetiSA

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I've been working on my entry for the February flesh competition. I'm afraid that I may not get it done in time for the 15th. I just haven't had much time to paint recently.
His flesh is more or less done but the rest of him has only been base coated. I'm not sure why but I was being particularly clumsy when I did it so I have quite a lot of cleaning up to do before I can start highlighting and shading. I also want to try some BAM style blood effects from those open wounds and on his arm wrappings. I want to keep the yellow nice and bright without a lot of wear like a sports uniform.

This mini is giving me my first opportunity to use my scale 75 metal and alchemy set. So far the metal has just been base coated with black metal but I'll be working it up. I must say I like what I've seen so far. It goes on smoothly and the grain is nice and fine.

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