Warboss conversion - he\'s big an\' mean!
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freakinacage
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lol the marine looks shocked!!! brilliant stuff, you must be proud
jamsessionein
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Okay.
I did a little walking around town and picked up three pens that looked like they\'d be the right size for what I wanted at the dollar store.
Brought em back, hacked em up, and this is what I have to show for it:
The metal hands are just placeholders for now from another model I had that just happens to fit. They will be replaced with robotic equivalents, though the left one will not be holding the base of a trigger to a gun like it is now.
Unfortunately, this is where I have to leave it for now, because I have an absurd amount of work to do for school tomorrow and I need all the time I can get.
I did a little walking around town and picked up three pens that looked like they\'d be the right size for what I wanted at the dollar store.
Brought em back, hacked em up, and this is what I have to show for it:
The metal hands are just placeholders for now from another model I had that just happens to fit. They will be replaced with robotic equivalents, though the left one will not be holding the base of a trigger to a gun like it is now.
Unfortunately, this is where I have to leave it for now, because I have an absurd amount of work to do for school tomorrow and I need all the time I can get.
jamsessionein
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This is Gargrim, yes.
He will have his little grot companion, Urk, on his shoulder by the time this model is done. For folks that haven\'t seen it, there\'s a whole backstory for this fellow.
jamsessionein
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Well, tonight I took a stab at making fists and I have to say it was a giant step sideways. Hands in particular have always eluded me. Back when I was making my Big Mek and I had to come up with a bionic hand, I went digging through my Bitz bins like a lunatic because it just wasn\'t looking right. This is much the same - though I took a stab at creating some proper-sized manhandlers out of styrene and paperclips, the results were substandard at best.
The one thing I will say I got out of doing this is that I learned I like his look much better if I have closed fists, rather than the open hands like what the original dire troll mauler had.
That last picture has his fist angled forward a bit strangely at the wrist, but you get the idea, anyway.
I may make another attempt at making a closed fist tomorrow in roughly the same style, with a bit more precision than the haphazard eyeballing I was doing today for finger joint lengths. Truthfully, though, I think this one might be a job for the toy stores - I\'ll have to go and take a look at things like transformers and gundam toys to see if I can\'t find a pair of robotic smashy fists already made the right size. I found a couple in Privateer Press\'s Warmachine lineups - the warjacks have a couple nice hands - but I don\'t know if they\'re the right scale, and I\'m not desperate enough yet to order them and see.
The one thing I will say I got out of doing this is that I learned I like his look much better if I have closed fists, rather than the open hands like what the original dire troll mauler had.
That last picture has his fist angled forward a bit strangely at the wrist, but you get the idea, anyway.
I may make another attempt at making a closed fist tomorrow in roughly the same style, with a bit more precision than the haphazard eyeballing I was doing today for finger joint lengths. Truthfully, though, I think this one might be a job for the toy stores - I\'ll have to go and take a look at things like transformers and gundam toys to see if I can\'t find a pair of robotic smashy fists already made the right size. I found a couple in Privateer Press\'s Warmachine lineups - the warjacks have a couple nice hands - but I don\'t know if they\'re the right scale, and I\'m not desperate enough yet to order them and see.
i would reccomend adding more dakka and bits to the back of the palm. possibly tubing going into the arms as well. the problem i see is the hand looks too clean. i would possibly make some of the digits different sized and nick and chip away at other parts. you could also possibly have a big dagga poppin out of his open hand.
i find when i have problems with making stuff look right, if you throw some other stuff your better at on top of it, it fixes the mistake.
btw i know you want two hands, but a huge round buzzsaw on his other hand just screams to me warboss.
l8r on.
i find when i have problems with making stuff look right, if you throw some other stuff your better at on top of it, it fixes the mistake.
btw i know you want two hands, but a huge round buzzsaw on his other hand just screams to me warboss.
l8r on.
painterboyroy
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oh well I will just have to wait for the final pics when loaded on the voting pages.. alas, more pics blocked by filters at work...
I will just have to wait for the final pics when loaded on the voting pages.. alas, more pics blocked by filters at work...jamsessionein
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What if I compromise and put a chainfist attachment on the back of the knuckles for punching?
Originally posted by painterboyroy
oh well
Just offtopic a bit, but I am more and more surprised at how many people are saying this, both at this forum and others. What on earth determines why the filter would block images linked over from my blog site? Not that looking at minis would necessarily be conducive to working as far as I\'m concerned, but I just find it unusual.
jamsessionein
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So for such a small little piece, manufacturing a hand sure is labor-intensive. All the little fiddly cutting and bending and measuring has to be just right!
As you can see, I remade the hand to be a bit less sloppy work. While sloppy might have been orky, the hand I previously made couldn\'t close into a proper fist due to the finger lengths I gave it. This new fist has been designed entirely around having a closed knuckle sandwich, and I think it looks a fair bit better for it.
The exposed paperclip areas are going to be filled in with greenstuff at some point, and I\'ll try and sculpt \'ribbing\' like what you see on the joints on marine armor so it looks flexible. There\'s obviously an unfinished space behind the hand - I\'m thinking maybe running wires into the knuckles and down the back of the hand into that space. Hydraulics were my other option, but because the inside of the \'gauntlet\' is curved, it\'s a bit too tricky to try and fit something that looks workable in that space.
I know the general preference for Warbosses is a snappy looking powerclaw, but I\'m trying to avoid that approach with this guy by making two giant knockout fists for him. This dude\'s not about cutting or stabbing or slicing or any of that. He\'s summed up in a single word: Smash! This guy has boxing matches with blood angel dreadnoughts.
That said, seeing as how Terminator Power Fists and Ork Power Klawz are roughly equivalent, and based on the size and obvious strength of this guy, I don\'t think anyone is going to be telling me, \"Uh, sorry, you didn\'t model that S10 klaw for WYSIWYG.\"
Extra details will be added as I go. I\'m going to be sticking an exhaust pipe or two somewhere on the exterior of the gauntlet, as well as a vent towards the back. There will be some cabling running up and into the musculature of the biceps area in the upper arm to help \'control\' the fist a little better. I\'m contemplating trying to add \'flame\' glyphs at the knuckle end of the outside of the gauntlet, or whether or not I want to do something like that with paint. Hell, I haven\'t quite finalized the outside arm details to any degree in my head.
As you can see, I remade the hand to be a bit less sloppy work. While sloppy might have been orky, the hand I previously made couldn\'t close into a proper fist due to the finger lengths I gave it. This new fist has been designed entirely around having a closed knuckle sandwich, and I think it looks a fair bit better for it.
The exposed paperclip areas are going to be filled in with greenstuff at some point, and I\'ll try and sculpt \'ribbing\' like what you see on the joints on marine armor so it looks flexible. There\'s obviously an unfinished space behind the hand - I\'m thinking maybe running wires into the knuckles and down the back of the hand into that space. Hydraulics were my other option, but because the inside of the \'gauntlet\' is curved, it\'s a bit too tricky to try and fit something that looks workable in that space.
I know the general preference for Warbosses is a snappy looking powerclaw, but I\'m trying to avoid that approach with this guy by making two giant knockout fists for him. This dude\'s not about cutting or stabbing or slicing or any of that. He\'s summed up in a single word: Smash! This guy has boxing matches with blood angel dreadnoughts.
That said, seeing as how Terminator Power Fists and Ork Power Klawz are roughly equivalent, and based on the size and obvious strength of this guy, I don\'t think anyone is going to be telling me, \"Uh, sorry, you didn\'t model that S10 klaw for WYSIWYG.\"
Extra details will be added as I go. I\'m going to be sticking an exhaust pipe or two somewhere on the exterior of the gauntlet, as well as a vent towards the back. There will be some cabling running up and into the musculature of the biceps area in the upper arm to help \'control\' the fist a little better. I\'m contemplating trying to add \'flame\' glyphs at the knuckle end of the outside of the gauntlet, or whether or not I want to do something like that with paint. Hell, I haven\'t quite finalized the outside arm details to any degree in my head.
jamsessionein
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Also, because I think it\'s fun, here\'s my big boss next to the Black Reach boss (who, I should mention, is just a hair bigger than the old metal boss).
I should mention that while I am still unsure as to the particulars of the outsides of his bionic arms, I do have the general gist of their function in mind. The way I see it, Gargrim (the boss) is obviously way too impressive to armor up, and from his own point of view he\'s too big to care. What he will do from time to time is use his bionic arms as a sort of shield for his torso; as he charges forward into the path of a tank or gunline or what have you, he brings both arms up infront of him to shield his body from enemy fire. With that in mind, I expect the exterior would be reasonably dinged up with bullet holes, scorch marks, and maybe a tank shell hole or two.
I should mention that while I am still unsure as to the particulars of the outsides of his bionic arms, I do have the general gist of their function in mind. The way I see it, Gargrim (the boss) is obviously way too impressive to armor up, and from his own point of view he\'s too big to care. What he will do from time to time is use his bionic arms as a sort of shield for his torso; as he charges forward into the path of a tank or gunline or what have you, he brings both arms up infront of him to shield his body from enemy fire. With that in mind, I expect the exterior would be reasonably dinged up with bullet holes, scorch marks, and maybe a tank shell hole or two.
why not give him a sort of large shield on the left fore-arm, and model the bullet holes there, i know you want to give him two free hands, but maybe a strap-on buckler thing (the size of a space marine).
or give him two smaller plates, one on each arm, like the warmachine devastator warjack.
or give him two smaller plates, one on each arm, like the warmachine devastator warjack.
jamsessionein
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Broke out the greenstuff and quickly remembered why I sent the thing to Noze in the first place. Still, I got some sort of joint covering over the knuckles.
Look decent enough? It\'s too small for me to really styrene the joints with any degree of reliability, so sculpting was really the only option. I think it turned out okay; should be less noticeable when painted.
The actual punching part of the knuckles is going to be covered with a styrene strip for extra armored hitting. It should be like a hinged brass knuckle sort of arrangement that can swing up when not in use (read: almost never) so the boss can use his fingers independently to do things like grab weapons. Or tanks.
The wider strip is where I\'m going to feed some of the wires into that lead up into the protective covering of the forearm.
Look decent enough? It\'s too small for me to really styrene the joints with any degree of reliability, so sculpting was really the only option. I think it turned out okay; should be less noticeable when painted.
The actual punching part of the knuckles is going to be covered with a styrene strip for extra armored hitting. It should be like a hinged brass knuckle sort of arrangement that can swing up when not in use (read: almost never) so the boss can use his fingers independently to do things like grab weapons. Or tanks.
The wider strip is where I\'m going to feed some of the wires into that lead up into the protective covering of the forearm.
