Q. about Techstar Micro-Ballons and inhaling them

Evil Dave

New member
Warnings be damned...
Let Darwinism prevail.

I\'m sure if we had in the past banned all stupid warnings, certain stupid people wouldn\'t be around today to threaten others with rusty knives.
 
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donga666

Guest
Originally posted by mickc22
..that which doesn\'t kill us, makes us stronger..
or something like that :D

Its not an old saying, but a quote from the German Philosopher Freidrich Neicher (sp?).

Andy, the smart arse :D
 

MarkusTay

New member
Originally posted by Trevor
And I would argue that each individual should learn for themselves and that putting warnings on everything prevents natural selection getting rid of stupid people. This is a big problem. *
lollollol

Too True! We have aHUGE problem in the states with people getting rich off of there own stupidity. A woman poured Hot Coffee in her lap and sued McDonald\'s for making the coffee hot, and it has now become trendy for fat people to sue fast food chains for making them fat! Maybe Big Mac\'s should come with a warning label--

Caution: Eating forty of these at one sitting could make you a fat Bastitch.

Hmmmm....this gives me an idea, maybe I can make some extra \"mini\" money by sueing Taco Bell for excessive flatulance...I could use my wife as a character witness...:D
 

frenchkid

New member
Well, at almost 19 I\'m not a that much of a kid anymore :D But don\'t worry I do plan on getting some of the stuff. But I\'ll just have to listen to the voice in my head telling me sniffing the stuff isn\'t going to make me see the sky. ;)
 

marineboy

New member
My point is, don\'t take anybody\'s word for it that something is safe and unharmful. Do the homework yourself.

Working in a factory the first year I cam to Denmark, I was occasionally running a circular saw to shorten aluminum extrusions. The saw was lubricated by oil being blown onto to blade by pressurised air.For days I \'d stand in a cloud of this shit, never gave a thought to wearing a protective mask. No one else did. Even the union guy said it was safe.

A year later the plant closed. I was held on to pack the production remain. When I got to the drum with the lubricating oil I been using (and breathing), I got it onto the pallet truck, moved it away from the wall it\'d been standing against and saw the warning sticker with the skull and crossbones on the hidden side of the barrel.. I\'d been breathing this shit for a year.

Stupidity? Yes. Am I gonna be in that situation again? No.

Today I\'m the safety rep. at the shop where I work. I don\'t tell people not to worry. I tell them to think.

Take care of yourselves, people. No one else will.

Live longer.

:):)
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
Marineboy, I know what you mean... for years I operated heavy equipment, then fired lots of large caliber weapons... but I was young and too cool to wear ear-muffs... now my high frequency is gone..

But I did the research on the micro-ballons - wouldn\'t recommend a steady diet of them or breathing a bottle, but they are fairly inert - small hollow ceramic spheres. If I was using them daily, I would use at least a dust mask.
 

Spacemunkie

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I have worked in craft depts. in schools that seem to think that cutting/sanding MDF every lesson without masks is fine.

They seem to have forgotten all about asbestos.....

When in doubt, WEAR A MASK (gloves, goggles et al)!!! Money can\'t buy back years of your life.... I\'ve already seen one colleague succumb to work induced cancer.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Originally posted by MarkusTay

Hmmmm....this gives me an idea, maybe I can make some extra \"mini\" money by sueing Taco Bell for excessive flatulance...I could use my wife as a character witness...:D

Define \"excessive\"....


actually on second thought, don\'t.


:D
 

Spacemunkie

New member
I used to be a chef in a Mexican restaurant. Flatulence is only excessive when it puts diners off their food:D

And always wash the Jalapeno juice off your hands before going for a wee. It\'s never a pleasant sight seeing a grown man with his nob in the sinklol

Especially when it\'s the one in the pot wash!!!!
 

MarkusTay

New member
That gets me so MAD

Originally posted by Spacemunkie
I have worked in craft depts. in schools that seem to think that cutting/sanding MDF every lesson without masks is fine.

They seem to have forgotten all about asbestos.....

When in doubt, WEAR A MASK (gloves, goggles et al)!!! Money can\'t buy back years of your life.... I\'ve already seen one colleague succumb to work induced cancer.

I just hate stupidity like that. I used to work part time for HomeDepot (I refer to it as my year in hëll). I was on the Safety team and when we were all trained we were told to tell customers we couldn\'t cut CCA Lumber because it contained arsnic. We did not have the proper ventilation for cutting it indoors. When the company found out they were losing customers to Lumber yards who would cut it, they changed their tune and told us to go ahead and cut it, that there was no risk. NO RISK IN BREATHING IN ARSNIC? As a carpenter I know better, and when building decks I always use protection (OK, stop snickering, get your minds out of the gutter). I refused to cut it, and told the men under me that it was their choice, but just make sure I was on the other end of the building. It makes me sick to think how big corporations risk our lives for the bottom line.:mad:
 

MarkusTay

New member
Sorry for the DP

Spacemunkie, ya slipped that one in before I could post. Yes, Jalepeono on your hands is a baaaaad thing, got it in my eyes once. My kids got to hear me scream like Boy George.

Supervike, you don\'t even wanna know, man. Lets just say I could probably make a fortune off of this stuff if the U.N. didn\'t bane chemical weapons.
 

marineboy

New member
My master (proper term for an owner of a workshop employing journeymen) is a nice guy but a total berk when it comes to safety. Everytime we get apprentices in, I ask him if he\'s given them the safety talk (no chemicals, no work on stationary power tools without proper instruction, all safety features installed and enabled on machines, etc.). The answer, in every case, is no. So I do the talk. Here in Denmark, if a work-related accident is reported to an alarm central, the police come out with the ambulance and check out the situation. If they determine negligence on the part of the company, the daily safety officer can get arrested, fined or, worse, sentenced to a jail.

The worst thing is, my master doesn\'t take it seriously. On top of that, most of the apprentices don\'t, either! I\'m almost getting to the point where I don\'t worry about it any more -- people get advised once, then it\'s not my problem any more.

Darwinism? Yes. The only one you can take care of is yourself. Sad fact, but true.

Sorry to keep on harping on this, but it gets my goat.

:mad::flame::D
 

vincegamer

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Originally posted by MarkusTayI just hate stupidity like that. I used to work part time for HomeDepot (I refer to it as my year in hëll).
They are the ones who up until very recently kept unbalanced heavy loads teetering 20-30 feet over the head of their customers, right?
 

vincegamer

New member
Originally posted by donga666
Originally posted by mickc22
..that which doesn\'t kill us, makes us stronger..
or something like that :D

Its not an old saying, but a quote from the German Philosopher Freidrich Neicher (sp?).

Andy, the smart arse :D
Neicher is dead, therefore it must be an old saying.
Vince the smarter arse;)
As my former brother-in-law used to say: It\'s better than being a dumb ass.


(new version - that which does not kill me only diminishes my quality of life for years to come)
 

borg

Administrator
I have to tell you. When I first ordered the Techstar Snowflakes, I consulted Jennifer Haley and she told me that it is the best product on the market bar none, but the particles are very small and to make sure I wear somesort of ventilator when using it.

There is a disclaimer on our shopping cart:

Warning: when using this product, you must wear a mask or ventilator as these particles are very very small and can cause damage with prolong exposure.

in bright red letters no less.

I do think that it is a little casual on the manufacturer\'s part not to put anything on the label. I will make it a point to include that warning in future shipments in the package itself.

So just to recap. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL KILL YOU, BUT DON\'T BREATH IT IN. As I understand it, it is not something that will react with your lungs or poisonous, but due to the small size of the ballons, once you breath it in, most likely it will stay with you for good.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
not hobby related...

but since we are discussing stupid things we did at work...

I was working on some aerial phone lines, and needed to remove an old service wire that went to a house. The service wire was not attached to the phone poles but rather to what we call \'midspan\' (attached to the cable and strand between two poles).

I put my ladder up onto the strand, facing away from the house, and got out my trusty sidecutters to snip the wire.

By putting my ladder facing away from the house, and climbing it, adding weight to the strand, the tension of the service wire to the house was very high. Of course, that never occured to me until after I snipped the wire, and I was sent slingshotting wildly back and forth on the ladder.

I didn\'t fall off, and wasn\'t hurt, although I did have to go home to get a fresh pair of undershorts.lollol

The next time I had to do something similar, I put the ladder up FACING the house, thus building slack into the service wire, making my life much simplier....AH live and learn.lol
 

RedDawn

New member
Since Supervike did...

...I\'ll tell a non-mini-related story as well. Being a biology/chemistry major in college I had LOTS of labs. Was working on an end-of-term project/test in chem lab to determine what particular substance we had. At the very beginning of the lab the prof goes over some safety warnings including the obvious - DON\'T SNIFF ANY SUBSTANCES OUT OF THE BEAKER - waft it with your hand. What does my dumba$$ lab partner do, but pick up a beaker of ammonia and take a real deep sniff before I could stop him. Sorry - I\'m a really bad person because I laughed my a$$ off at him. I did find out the next year that toulene makes me hungry even if you can\'t smell it. I always knew when someone wasn\'t working with it under the ventilator hood and had to remind them that it\'s carcinogenic!!
 
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