You thought you had enough of it at school (Physics...)

Einion

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Originally posted by finn17
You are in a lift and the cable breaks. You start to descend rapidly.....:eek:

If, while the lift is plummetting, you jump up and down...
An elevator falls down a shaft at roughly 80mph, since you can\'t jump upwards remotely that fast even if you could time the jump correctly it wouldn\'t make enough difference to matter (I watch Mythbusters me :D)

I think the interesting part of this is the \"you\'re in a lift and the cable breaks\" part since this is so rare, and there are safety systems built into them to prevent one falling even if the cable is broken. I don\'t know if it\'s still true but I think nobody has ever died in an elevator - even in the Empire State when struck by a B-25!

Originally posted by finn17
...there is a good chance that you might still be in the air during one of your jumps:flip:
Actually I think you spend more time on the ground than in the air so the chances are you\'ll be landing or jumping when the impact occurs.

Originally posted by Naukhel
Fizl: That\'s a myth. All jumping in an elevator does is give you an extra few inches to fall. You have a much better chance of coming out of it if you stand on your toes and relax, to let your legs do as much shock absorption as possible.
Lie on your back to spread the load as widely as possible - you will be hurt but you won\'t experience the \'bag of marbles\' effect. The human body can actually withstand decelerations of nearly 100gs without much harm.

Einion
 

Evil Dave

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Intrestingly enough, I was once at a party on the 8th floor of a building when someone in a drunken stupor fell from one of the windows.
Now thats roughly75-80 feet, but what made it worse is he landed on concrete.
When he landed it sounded like a chord of wood hitting the ground, and we watched him bounce.
He was so drunk he went limp, landed on his feet, and rolled with it.
He shattered both his legs up to about mid thigh, broke one arm, and got a concussion.

When the paramedics got there, they took off his boots (Why? I have know idea.) you could hear bone rattling around in his steel toes

When he got to the hospital the docters were in disbelief when we told him he fell from 8th floor, they said his injuries were only consistent with a 4 floor fall, they then pronounced that being drunk saved his life.

They patched him up pretty well, but a mix up in paperwork, from a hospital transferance, an infection in one of his legs was overlooked and he lost the leg.

Nonetheless he was very happy and lucky to be alive.
 

Shawn R. L.

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they then pronounced that being drunk saved his life.

That\'s one of the cruel ironies in drunk driving crashes. Many times the drunk will kill someone else yet survive themselves for just the fact you mentioned.???:mad:
 

tzor

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Originally posted by bayrodney
What if i was to jump on the Trampoline while it was travelling 80kmph (About 50mph) down the road, would i fly backward, or land back on to the trampoline?

Consider it this way, using relativity. Suppose the trampoline was not moving at all and you started jumping when a 50 MPH hour wind was comming at you. Would you land on the trampoline?

In other words, you and the trampoline moving 50 MPH into the wind is the same as the wind moving 50 MPG into you and the trampoline. A 50 MPH wind is consiered \"gale force winds\" by the National Weather Service and \"severe gale based on the Beaufort scale.

Consider this. 120 MPH is enough to keep you vertically in the air and is used in wind tunnels for sky diving training.

In general I could not find any good references to horizontal pressures at 50 MPH but it certanly seems logical that it could easily move you several feet in the tmie it took you to jump from the trampoline to the point where gravity would return you to the trampoline. Logic dictates one should neither jump on trampolines in gale force winds nor when they are moving along at 50 MPH.
 

Evil Dave

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Originally posted by tzor
Originally posted by bayrodney
What if i was to jump on the Trampoline while it was travelling 80kmph (About 50mph) down the road, would i fly backward, or land back on to the trampoline?

Consider it this way, using relativity. Suppose the trampoline was not moving at all and you started jumping when a 50 MPH hour wind was comming at you. Would you land on the trampoline?

In other words, you and the trampoline moving 50 MPH into the wind is the same as the wind moving 50 MPG into you and the trampoline. A 50 MPH wind is consiered \"gale force winds\" by the National Weather Service and \"severe gale based on the Beaufort scale.

Consider this. 120 MPH is enough to keep you vertically in the air and is used in wind tunnels for sky diving training.

In general I could not find any good references to horizontal pressures at 50 MPH but it certanly seems logical that it could easily move you several feet in the tmie it took you to jump from the trampoline to the point where gravity would return you to the trampoline. Logic dictates one should neither jump on trampolines in gale force winds nor when they are moving along at 50 MPH.

Unless you are very drunk in which case you should live.:D
 

Duende

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Originally posted by Evil Dave
they then pronounced that being drunk saved his life.

Maybe so, but if he stayed sober he wouldn\'t have fallen in the first place.

Being drunk at the time of his accident may have lessened the severity of his injuries, and kept him from losing his life, but it certainly didn\'t improve it.

Sorry if I seems a bit touchy on this subject, I\'ve been dealing with a family member who\'s in denial about his \"problem\", and saying \"being drunk saved a life\" doesn\'t acknowledge the fact that something was still lost from being in a drunken stupor.

Sorry for being a bummer... back to your regularly scheduled \"crazy trampoline tricks\" thread...:)
 

Spanky

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Originally posted by Evil Dave

When the paramedics got there, they took off his boots (Why? I have know idea.)

They do that to evaluate the injuries, stabilize the leg as much as possible, look for possible life threatening injuries (ie an arterial bleed) ect. Anytime you have muliple traumatic injuries your clothes are removed or cut off your body during the paramedics assessment.

being drunk saved his life.

While I have seen to much of this phenomenon to totally dismiss it, I will say that dumb luck has to play a bigger part. If he landed on his head first, the outcome would be different, no matter how drunk he was.
 

Evil Dave

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Oh, I totally agree that it was completely his fault for being that drunk and falling in the first place.

Have you ever been rear-ended and seen it coming? It\'s happened to me twice, and if you know it\'s coming you involuntarely stiffen up, which is the exact opposite of what you should do. It\'s weird.

He was just too drunk to be scared and go all rigid, he stayed relaxed, which allowed him to roll with it.
 

dauber22

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So, if I find myself jumping on a trampoline while plummeting down and elevator shaft, the best possible use of my time would be to drink heavily ??? Oh wait! Or was that vacuuming ??? Vacuuming while drunk ???
I\'m feeling a bit confused.:(
 

tzor

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Originally posted by Evil Dave
Unless you are very drunk in which case you should live.:D

Well assuming you fall off of the trampoline onto unforgiving pavement, having your body in a loose condition is preferable to having your body in a rigid condition in terms of breaking bones and stuff like that.

On the other hand, being drunk it might be difficult to hit the trampoline even when there is no movement or wind at all. lol
 

Evil Dave

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Originally posted by tzor
Originally posted by Evil Dave
Unless you are very drunk in which case you should live.:D

Well assuming you fall off of the trampoline onto unforgiving pavement, having your body in a loose condition is preferable to having your body in a rigid condition in terms of breaking bones and stuff like that.

On the other hand, being drunk it might be difficult to hit the trampoline even when there is no movement or wind at all. lol
True, but if you drink enough, you probably won\'t remember the \"little experiment\" you wanted to try.
 

Einion

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Originally posted by Evil Dave
When the paramedics got there, they took off his boots (Why? I have know idea.) you could hear bone rattling around in his steel toes
I suspect because of swelling - it would only be harder to do later.

And euww!

Originally posted by Evil Dave
He was just too drunk to be scared and go all rigid, he stayed relaxed, which allowed him to roll with it.
They say the same thing has saved the lives of babies and toddlers who have fallen from balconies in multi-story buildings.

Einion
 

EArkham

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Originally posted by Einion
Originally posted by Evil Dave
He was just too drunk to be scared and go all rigid, he stayed relaxed, which allowed him to roll with it.
They say the same thing has saved the lives of babies and toddlers who have fallen from balconies in multi-story buildings.

And this is why you should always keep your babies very drunk...? :)

Kep
 

Spanky

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Originally posted by Einion
Originally posted by Evil Dave
When the paramedics got there, they took off his boots (Why? I have know idea.) you could hear bone rattling around in his steel toes
I suspect because of swelling - it would only be harder to do later.

And euww!

Einion

As I said earlier, its for evaluation, injury treatment and stabilization. As a 12 year paramedic myself I\'ve seen injuries like this a few times. and yes :|~ euww
 
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