WTF? Airbrush? I call foul!!

Arma

New member
Who are you cheating? This site is called "CoolMiniorNot" not "If you use another painting tool besides a brush it's cheating!". I use an airbrush also for applying basecoats, coloured zen-lighting instead of just black and white and for large vehicles (I build and paint AFV, MaK etc also).

As many people have said too, it's not that easy.. it takes time, just like using a brush, to get used to paint ratios etc.. cleaning and maintaining the brush between colours - amongst many other things.
 

Ritual

New member
You use the best tool available for the task at hand. If you've got access to an airbrush, or can afford to buy one, why not use it when the situation calls for it? Would you cut down a tree with an axe, desipite having a chainsaw in the garage, because it's more "hardcore"? I wouldn't give any extra points to someone refusing to use an airbrush, despite having access to one, and put in hours and hours of work doing something with a regular brush that would take 10 minutes to do with an airbrush. I would just think it was a rather silly decision. :)

As most have already said, airbrushing is a skill in itself. It's not simply point and press and voilà... instant masterpiece! It takes time and practice to master, and, as Hendarion explained very well, there are a lot of things that can go wrong BECAUSE of the airbrush. Most people I know, including myself, actually were reluctant after using an airbrush the first couple of times because it was tricky to handle and the process felt more technical than the sort of casual, relaxed feeling you get when painting with regular brush. But when you learn how to handle the airbrush, and learn to control it, you get the same kind of relaxed feeling.

There are a huge number of tools and aids available for us to use in this hobby: various paint brands, different brushes, sculpting tools, sanding tools, knives, drills, paint additives, etc. etc. They are a great help to the hobbyist for achieving certain things. An airbrush is just one of those, that makes painting certain things easier and quicker. Other things require other tools and methods to paint.

And, every single spot on any figure of any size I paint get some attention with a regular brush after the airbrushing is done. Airbrushing, unless you're insanely good at using one, can easily produce rather sterile results, IMO. Blends are nice, of course, but the whole thing feels a bit lifeless (I often think the same about 2D art done with airbrush). Therefore, I go over every surface with a lot of glazes to give them more life and a less uniform look. I often enhance highlights, as well, with a regular brush. And of course, I paint details and textures and stuff with regular brush. Not because it's more proper, but because I find it to be a better tool for the task.

Sorry for being long-winded, but the idea that airbrushing would be cheating always gets me going... So much, even, that I decided to end my lengthy absence from CMoN because of it... :D
 

Feori

New member
I think there is very little that can be done effectively on minis with an airbrush, and the clean up and maintenance is a serious pain in the butt compared to standard brushes.
 

Jericho

Consummate Brushlicker
Maybe he means the airbrush tool in Photoshop, which is probably a lot closer to cheating ;) Although I do prefer the clone brush when doing most photo editing. Matches the "noise" and texture of the surface better.

Before anyone gets on my case, I've mostly done Photoshopping to remove something like a dog hair stuck to a mini that I photographed then put away and cleaned up the area where I take pictures. I'm no expert with the Photoshop, so it would be easier for me to do a better job painting than struggle to "improve" it digitally :p
 

Chrome

New member
Maybe he means the airbrush tool in Photoshop, which is probably a lot closer to cheating ;) Although I do prefer the clone brush when doing most photo editing. Matches the "noise" and texture of the surface better.

Before anyone gets on my case, I've mostly done Photoshopping to remove something like a dog hair stuck to a mini that I photographed then put away and cleaned up the area where I take pictures. I'm no expert with the Photoshop, so it would be easier for me to do a better job painting than struggle to "improve" it digitally :p


Let them bash, if you need to photoshop something on one of your gold demon winning entries then go for it, it's not like you haven't proven your skill already. :)
 

Ritual

New member
I think there is very little that can be done effectively on minis with an airbrush, and the clean up and maintenance is a serious pain in the butt compared to standard brushes.

Actually, there's a lot you can do. On larger scales most definitely, but even on 28-33 mm minis you can do a lot, depending on what mini it is!
 

Feori

New member
Actually, there's a lot you can do. On larger scales most definitely, but even on 28-33 mm minis you can do a lot, depending on what mini it is!

Maybe I should have worded that differently - I think there is very little that I can do. :) My airbrush skills and equipment are not all that great. I was using my airbrush for primer and rough shading coats, but found any time saved with the airbrush was lost with the clean-up. I am sure a truly skilled air-brusher could do great things with minis. Hell, I have seen plenty of things created on minis with traditional brushes that I just do not understand how they are even possible, so I suppose airbrushes would be no different.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
I'm not slamming airbrushers here, but I feel that airbrushing a mini (aside from a primer) is cheating... like someone taking a gun to a knife fight.
:smile-big:Bollocks:smile-big:(Meant in a friendly way)
No such thing as cheating on a mini, it's all about what ever gets the job done to the best effect.
Take a look at this guys work:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/artist/Pepa

Or

http://www.coolminiornot.com/artist/Philippe

Airbrushing is simply another tool, just like a sable brush.
 
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dannyk01

New member
Well, just like normal brushwork, airbrushing takes alot of skill. Airbrushing isn't a skill that I really have. Just because somebody used an airbrush doesn't mean it is cheating. It means they are using different tools to try and create a different effect.

For instance, you have two pieces of canvas and you paint the same picture twice: once with an airbrush airbrush and the other with traditional bristle brushs. Same picture different effect. It's the exact same thing. Minis are OUR canvas.

Regards,
Daniel
 

Einion

New member
Well since this popped back up, I call foul on this thread!

Seriously though :stop: thinking airbrushing is cheating is like thinking that using a commercial wash, or pigment powders or any of a host of other things is too.

-Ice said:
...like someone taking a gun to a knife fight.
What if I take a stick? Or two sticks joined with a chain? Or a sai? :snicker:

Einion
 

Loupgarou

New member
Okay, I know airbrushing is a valid technique in painting but for minis?

I feel that airbrushing a mini (aside from a primer) is cheating... like someone taking a gun to a knife fight.

Cheating; Wouldn't that imply that you are doing something that makes it easier?... try to airbrush a mini to a good standard and then re-post your opinions, you might find they've changed.
 
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