hamhamlunchbox
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page 162.its about lothar,champion of nurgle that turns into bubonicus.and that very same bubonicus rules a demon world in the 40k universe
What are the expunged chapters
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Well according to half the stuff GW puts out, just becasue something in inferred or implied doesn\'t make it so until they actually write it down. Apparently you can\'t do a Nippon army or Cathy army in WFB and have them look like a Japanese or Chinese force. In their words \"we don\'t know what they are like because we haven\'t done those areas yet\". Then here is an idea, come up with another name that doesn\'t carry connotations of a culture.
So although it might have been implied that Sigmar was a Primarch, until GW says that he is, then he isn\'t.
So although it might have been implied that Sigmar was a Primarch, until GW says that he is, then he isn\'t.
Pages 121-3 of Lost and the Damned tell the tale of Lothar Bubonicus who does indeed rise to become a Daemon Prince. There is no mention of him being granted a Daemon world only that he enters Nurgles realm.
Page 162 features the line \"Another world has boiling lakes of blood from which spheres of fire float into the sky and spread their light across the firmament - the ruler of this world is the Daemon Prince Bubonicus, formerly a mortal champion of Nurgle on one of the myriad lost worlds in the galaxy.\" Again no specifics, it\'s left purposefully vague so you can infer what you wish from it. It doesn\'t categorically say that this is the same Bubonicus and lets face it it\'s not the first time GW has recycled names. Most of the named characters in the new Daemon books are usable in both systems.
It would be a massive headache for GW to place the Warhammer world into the 40k background as they would have to explain amongst other things; why Elves don\'t need Soulstones, why Orcs don\'t spontaneously manifest the ability to create technology, why Dwarves, Ogres and Halflings were seeded by the Old Ones rather than evolving as abhumans as they do in 40k. Also if the twin tailed comet was Sigmars gene vat falling to earth why has it been seen several times afterwards? and the most important question of all why does he have a belly button?
Page 162 features the line \"Another world has boiling lakes of blood from which spheres of fire float into the sky and spread their light across the firmament - the ruler of this world is the Daemon Prince Bubonicus, formerly a mortal champion of Nurgle on one of the myriad lost worlds in the galaxy.\" Again no specifics, it\'s left purposefully vague so you can infer what you wish from it. It doesn\'t categorically say that this is the same Bubonicus and lets face it it\'s not the first time GW has recycled names. Most of the named characters in the new Daemon books are usable in both systems.
It would be a massive headache for GW to place the Warhammer world into the 40k background as they would have to explain amongst other things; why Elves don\'t need Soulstones, why Orcs don\'t spontaneously manifest the ability to create technology, why Dwarves, Ogres and Halflings were seeded by the Old Ones rather than evolving as abhumans as they do in 40k. Also if the twin tailed comet was Sigmars gene vat falling to earth why has it been seen several times afterwards? and the most important question of all why does he have a belly button?
HighLordUlrik
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I still honestally think that The Soul Drinkers are one of the expunged chapters. But like someone said in the beging of the topic they didnt think they did thing that were bad enough and the more I tihkn about it look at the Traitor chapters and all the awful things thneyh did so woh knows. But then again no one will know untill GW releases the info which I dont see they will for a really long time
shinjikun1
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1. popular theory around my community is:
A. Rainbow Warriors
B. Sacred Hearts, \"Galaxies in Flames\" compilation mentions the Primarch of the Sacred Hearts in one of the stories.
2. The only place you\'ll find any regarding a WHFB/40k crossover (and its a streach) is in the OLD Bloodbowl Rulebook and its more of a hint at the old World being the same planet as our world.
A. Rainbow Warriors
B. Sacred Hearts, \"Galaxies in Flames\" compilation mentions the Primarch of the Sacred Hearts in one of the stories.
2. The only place you\'ll find any regarding a WHFB/40k crossover (and its a streach) is in the OLD Bloodbowl Rulebook and its more of a hint at the old World being the same planet as our world.
Roger Bunting
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Looking in my SM codex I can just about make out the name of the second expunged chapter. It\'s Santa Warriors. So now you know.
hamhamlunchbox
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the recycling of that nurgle guys name coud really just be a coincidence,but that example and some others are mentioned at the lexicanum.
i dont think that those two worlds are one and the same,but you know,there are some storys where ppl see connections.
and that thing with sigmars bellybutton:thats why wrote that he was born by humans.\"born\" allready implies that he was not created or a clone
i dont think that those two worlds are one and the same,but you know,there are some storys where ppl see connections.
and that thing with sigmars bellybutton:thats why wrote that he was born by humans.\"born\" allready implies that he was not created or a clone
I think the idea is that you see the connections but they are never substantiated. That way they can let people believe what they want. Because this is all made up anyway they never have to say for certain one way or the other.
Personally it sits better with me to have the two games kept completely seperate but I will concede the fact that some people enjoy creating connections and fitting it all together into one big game universe.
Personally it sits better with me to have the two games kept completely seperate but I will concede the fact that some people enjoy creating connections and fitting it all together into one big game universe.
demonherald
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Aaaaaah the old connections thing.........well the chaos thing is fairly straightforward I guess .. It\'s simply daemons the immaterial realm doesn\'t exist fully in one world or another just exists....
other story hints that seems to tie could be hinting at a similar universe different times .. things like the necrontyr and such like mentioned as creators (and destroyers) always a good thing to keep people guessing and leave future options open.....also I guess the relatively small number of people who first put down the black and white guidelines can only go so far for originality of sorts....... who knows always fun to see how people interpret things which I guess is why it\'s maintained my interest for 20+ years....
other story hints that seems to tie could be hinting at a similar universe different times .. things like the necrontyr and such like mentioned as creators (and destroyers) always a good thing to keep people guessing and leave future options open.....also I guess the relatively small number of people who first put down the black and white guidelines can only go so far for originality of sorts....... who knows always fun to see how people interpret things which I guess is why it\'s maintained my interest for 20+ years....
