New GW paintpot (pic)

[ejsaunders]

Here\'s a pic taken from the latest UK WD issue of the new paint pots:

They\'ve also after years of me emailing Jervis (and various other employees of GW HQ here in the UK), made EMPTY pots. Shame its not akin to the Vallejo pot, but I would certainly have bought some a few years ago, regardless of the style or type of pot, but no, they \"didn\'t sell them they just came in the Mega Paint Set...\" We shall just have to see how much an empty pot costs, but I would imagine its going to be the same as a \'full pot\' :flame:


Image ©GW 2003. No contest intended.

 

[mouse]

when? ...

so when\'s the new pots available and what are the new colours equavalent to as compared to other makes such as vallejo?

And I hope that their ink doesn\'t leak anymore ... my paint bag is getting the united colours of \"GW\".

 

[ejsaunders]

Well, from what I gather there isn\'t going to be a mass exodus of paint changed over. GW will only replace the old paints when they run out, so your local store is likely to carry the old pots for a while until they run out. I don\'t know if its the same in the US, but my local store has a sort of \'drop in\' rack that the paint comes out of, so they fill it at the top and the customer pulls the paint out of the bottom and the next one drops down ready for the next customer. My sources say that they will merely replace the empties with the newer pot style so if you want to get new pots you\'ll likely have to wait a while or ask one of the staff (who probably won\'t anyway) to get one out for you.

Aside from the pot change there is no planned change to the paint manufacturer at this time (from what my peepz tell me) so you\'ll still be buying the same amount (12ml) and the same quality of paint as before.

Also, some of the proposed \'new\' colours were original colours that GW removed or rename from before. Teracotta is a good example as was very popular in the mid 80s to 90s when Mike Mcvey replaced the colours he removed this particular one I believe or at the very least renamed it to something else (off the top of my head, to lazy to walk over to the cupboard and find that issue of WD).

Again, as with brushes I\'m very much a \'whatever floats your boat \' painter so if you personally like GW paint (which I do) then use it, but I also use Vallejo too, and find neither of any particular quality over the other once you get right down to it. I much prefer the smell on GW paint to Vallejo, but again, its all personal taste (or maybe that\'s smell...) lol

 

[Chrispy]

I also don\'t think this is a fix as good as Vallejo. With the eyedropper top, I\'m not constantly adding and remixing paint, I just remember one drop of X to 2 of Y. This just makes them pourable, which may lead to spillage in the future. As for new colors, Vallejo has 220, what color is there they haven\'t made?

Now, if GW had a program you could trade old paint for the newer ones, that\'d be something but with their mentality it\'s not likely to happen.

 

[finn17]

Price of empty pots..

Originally posted by ejsaunders
We shall just have to see how much an empty pot costs, but I would imagine its going to be the same as a \'full pot\' :flame:

Deeper within the bowels of this months White Dwarf they state that the price of empty pots will be 50p or 1 Euro. I guess they will just call that 1$ in the States?

Personally I couldn\'t give a hoot as I dropped GW about a year ago in favour of Vallejo and Andrea but this must be good news for all those poor s*ds who have no choice but to buy GW.

 

[Corvus]

I think this is just another excuse from GW to make the Citadel paints more expensive (again). I\'m glad I started buying Vallejo Model Color since a while ago...

 

[Aschul]

silly new pots

The thing I find silly about these new pots is that they\'re going to have the same problem as the old ones. The fundamental problem with the pots is the kind of plastic they\'re made of; it\'s too hard. Paint bottles are always made of a softer, rubbery plastic so that the bottle seals better when it\'s closed. It\'s a shame the GW guys didn\'t figure that out.

 

[mouse]

Huh??

Originally posted by Aschul
Paint bottles are always made of a softer, rubbery plastic so that the bottle seals better when it\'s closed. It\'s a shame the GW guys didn\'t figure that out.

Is that true? Sh*t! That\'s something that I learnt today....maybe someone should inform those GW guys who designed the bottles before they get the marching orders...

 

[DELTADOG]

I can see it in my mind......

thousands of people screaming, crying, weaponed with sharp small things scratching nerveous on the border of this new pot to scratch off the total dried paint from it, to be able to close the top.
lollollol:bouncy::bouncy::duh:lollol

 

[ejsaunders]

Mouse I doubt very much any form of email or petition, or even a quiet word in someone\'s ear will help. You see, they don\'t seem to consider the consumer\'s opinion, they merely go with the cost option most of the time.

If they bowed to consumer opinion you\'d have a GREAT gaming company, as it is, I love them to bits, but I don\'t think they are great at anything in particular (let alone GREAT). They could be the only producer that people need but they still insist on making their money first and asking customers second, which is a great shame. They obviously didn\'t ask anyone if they used the inks they\'ve now dropped, or the colours, but they add new ones, based on what market research? I\'ve never been asked in person, via email or letter and I\'ve been a big advocate of their products for years and know many of the staff inside the company. I wonder who they really ask for their opinion on these matters?

Edit: Damn those medication/tablet-related spwuling foorwes (spelling fairies)

 

[Infidel Castro]

What\'s all the fuss?

When all is said and done, paint is paint is paint. If you prefer one, great, prefer another...whatever floats your luxury liner lol

Ultimately, we are the tip of the iceberg (or maybe the unseen underclass-type element) in this matter, and for every one of us there\'s twenty, thirty, one hundred, one thousand people who are happy with what they\'re getting. GW is a company and needs to run itself in a profitable, business-like way. Now whether you or I decide not to use their paints, we are just in a tiny minority. If they depended on just us, fair enough, but that ain\'t the case. I like their paints, still buy them as well as two other types, and I love their minis on the whole. I like the look of their new pots too. But hey, who cares a monkeys \'bout me? No bugger!

Just trying to show that we get a little too uppity sometimes...you know?

Let\'s all stop griping. Have you ever heard of the phrase that says something like THERE\'S NO SUCH THING AS BAD PUBLICITY?

By the way, spoke to Jervis J. a couple of weeks ago and I found him to be a great chap - very open-minded man.

Phil :innocent:

 

[ejsaunders]

JJ is one of the nicest people that work at GW HQ. I find him to be knowledgeable about his products and caring about them too (hell, he is the father after all). He always manages to email me a personal reply to my (probing?) questions and he\'s just, well, nice. There are others in the fold (who\'s names shall not be mentioned) who aren\'t anything like JJ and are ignorant and bigheaded and should sit on a GD trophey for an afternoon or two. Long live the \'shades and tail meister\' although they\'ve moved on since then (the ponytail and the shades that is), but I believe he still sees his hair on Sundays... lol

 

[finn17]

No change there then...

Originally posted by DELTADOG
thousands of people screaming, crying, weaponed with sharp small things scratching nerveous on the border of this new pot to scratch off the total dried paint from it, to be able to close the top.
lollollol:bouncy::bouncy::duh:lollol

Pretty much, business as usual then?:bouncy:

 

[laurence]

Pitching a tent outside GW & patiently waiting for those new paint pots

I like the look of their new pots too. But hey, who cares a monkeys \'bout me? No bugger!

I care \'bout cha

As sad a this may seem I know that the day I set eyes on those new pots in a GW store I\'m buying some, even if its just for the pure pleasing acstetic of those great new looking pots or because of those funky new named colors...

 

[laurence]

quote/schmote

Whoops I made a meal of that attempt at a quote. Oh Well In case you were wondering (which is highly unlikely) the top sentence was quoted from the reverends previous passage. Sorry

 

[FroozenDoodler]

How to correctly use the pot?

Looking from the pic i think your supposed to just use the flip-top as a means of opening the paint like the old pots. Just don\'t try opening the screw part, otherwise I think its going to be another saga of paint drying. I am praying that their flip-top is just as secure as their old ones and not just some cheap click device, trying to fool the kiddies.

One extra thing, the opening tab/device doesn\'t seem too big. I think callices on the thumb are gonna come back too!

 

[Dragonsreach]

Aside from the pot change there is no planned change to the paint manufacturer at this time (from what my peepz tell me) so you\'ll still be buying the same amount (12ml) and the same quality of paint as before.

I have been told by a GW staff painter that the paint is actually supplied by Windsor & Newton the Artist suppliers. Now there\'s news to me!

As for the pots they\'ve been on test in GW UK headquarters since at least November 2002, when I saw them on an open day.
As for the flip tops - snapped fingernails again!

 

[ejsaunders]

That wouldn\'t surprise me as their brushes are W&N made, but the quality of the paint is certainly very very different to anything W&N make, I use their \'finity\' acrylic colour from time to time and its no where near the GW colours, unless GW have a specific chemical formula they ask their manf. to make their paint to.

 

[ejsaunders]

Update: I have sent several emails to important people in the GW HQ to either confirm or deny the rumors, so hopefully they will (if they can say) either say yay or ney either way, or give me a better idea of what\'s happening to share with you all.

Also, if anyone has actually got close to one of those paint pots; it looks like it in the pic, but if someone can confirm there is no dropper nozzle (like the Apple Barrel/Delta colours after you flip their lid up) on these bottles, it is merely to cover the hole like the old white-topped bottles from the late 80s then I\'d be a happy bunny.

Tammy can you offer any insite hon, you work in the darkest recesses of the \'ol GWHQ and since your a painta\' I\'m wondering if you\'ve been using these for a lil white?

 

[SJB]

I had a closeup look at the new paintpots this morning.

The new lid is hard plastic, which seems like a dubious idea but time will tell on that front. I think at the very least these will be an improvement. Plus the new colours look usefull.

I can confirm that there is no dropper nozzle on the pot. The lid opens to reveal a hole about half an inch or so diameter.

As for the manufacturer of Citadel paint, I\'m pretty sure that it isn\'t Windsor and Newton. It is in fact a french company producing the current paint range.

Steve Buddle