new brush woes

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by Ritual
If you want to get some sort of texture impression on surfaces I find small brushes very useful.
Hmmn That\'s got me curious............Care to explain a bit.
 

Ritual

New member
Well, one of the things I have done is when I paint NMM that I want to look worn, but not necessarily all rusty and mangled, I have applied highlights in a cross-hatch pattern using very diluted paint in many many layers. This gives a smooth, but just slightly \"textured\" look once you have enough layers. If I use a bigger brush for this it doesn\'t come out right. I find a small brush good for this as it doesn\'t hold much paint and thus I can easily feather the lines out when I want them to end. I hope that makes sense. It\'s easier to show than to explain.... But when using a bigger brush the individual lines easily becomes too pronounced and that\'s not the effect I want for this.
 

JaPizzy

New member
I also have to agree with the brush size comments. I do about 90% of a job with a #1 brush (regular or mini), and only use something smaller if I have to reach between something and get in a whole. The tip is the key to painting fine detail with a bigger brush. A #2 series 7 could be used for some of the finest detail given a gentle hand.

I have seen some people at my local bunker paints things the size of a GW ogre with a fine detail brush (2/0 or so) :no: They just dunk the brush in the pot up to the metal and slap it on. Breaks my heart sometimes ;)

Cheers

James
 

Ritual

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The miniature brushes have shorter bristles. For most uses I think the regular ones are better and I can\'t really think of any situation where the miniature ones are decidedly better.
 

Einion

New member
Originally posted by lizcam
Irinse in water every few seconds but what I mean by cleaning is using liquid brush cleaner.
Well IMO you really shouldn\'t need to actually wash your brush bristles more than every now and again if rinsing thoroughly as you work. Your hard water is certainly not going to be a help here though and I\'m not really sure just how much of an issue this might be as I\'m lucky in that I\'ve always lived in places with soft water.

Originally posted by lizcam
I have been using cheap brushes but thats mostly because I don\'t have a sorce of good ones out here in the boonies and buying them on line works but takes time.
Well it\'s well worth getting at least a few good-quality Kolinsky rounds for finer work (just a 0 and a couple of 00 or 000smaybe). Keep synthetics and use them for any rough stuff but a quality round should last you through many minis in good shape.

Some previous threads you might like to check out on brush selection:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=11363
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=10694
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=16945

Originally posted by lizcam
The few good brushes I have (mostly fine detail 20/0 to 30/0)...
20/0, 30/0?

Originally posted by lizcam
Again, it could be cheap paint, too.
Yep, might do. But you can get decent results with Apple Barrel and other craft-type acrylics and although they\'re not the smoothest often I haven\'t had too much trouble using them for this and that.


Originally posted by usurpator
what is the specificity of the mini brush serie 7? I only use regular serie 7 - is it worth having both?
What ritual said.

Some people like the Series 7 minis but I\'m of the opinion that a larger brush is nearly always a better choice since it holds more paint while still having a really sharp point. With acrylics and vinyl paint and their short drying time if you have a very tiny brush there\'s so little paint in the bristles that it\'s hard to work without having the paint right at the tip dry out (depending on your local humidity and temperature of course).

For the finest details there is something to be said for tiny brushes like a 0000 - especially if you have trouble controlling the tip on a larger brush - but I would recommend working toward using the largest brush feasible. You could for example paint an entire 30mm mini with just a #0, or even a #1, depending on your detail requirements.

Einion
 

lizcam

New member
Originally posted by Ritual
Generally I would agree with Mike on the brush sizes. However, the smaller brushes have their uses. If you want to get some sort of texture impression on surfaces I find small brushes very useful.

This is actually what I use the 20/0 to 30/0 brushes for. My favorite brush is a 5/0 round I\'ve had for a while. I have a buch of different brushes ranging from #2 to 10/0 that I sue for different things including some \"specialty\" brushes like this one with a bent end I use to get between legs and in other odd places and a couple of sizes of flat angle cut brushes for sharp lines. I use flat brushes for covering large areas but rounds for most other things. The thing is I keep coming home to find new brushes at my work station. My hubby buys me \"presents\". He sees something he thinks I can use and just buys it for me. It\'s so sweet I have a hard time telling him to stop. But it cuts into my \"brush and paint\" budget so I have to save and scrimp for the good ones. (oh the trials of married life). It\'s the same thing with figures. I have hundreds of the little buggers waiting to be painted because he keeps buying them for me to paint. He can\'t see well enought o paint them himself so they sit there with sad looks on thier little faces waiting for me to pay them some attention. It would take me years to paints them all.
 

lizcam

New member
Originally posted by matty1001
Originally posted by lizcam
I have a buch of different brushes ranging from #2 to 10/0 that I sue for different things

You Americans!
lol either we are sue happy or can\'t spell for sh%$#. In my case I can\'t spell. lol
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Originally posted by Ritual
The miniature brushes have shorter bristles. For most uses I think the regular ones are better and I can\'t really think of any situation where the miniature ones are decidedly better.
Extremely thinned paint for freehand work.
I found I had a couple of Spotter brishes from repairing Photo\'s. (35mm Black and White, You know Real Photography with Chemicals and stuff :) )
Used them for a trial of freehand and found that they were better for that, than regular series 7\'s. Well for me anyhow.
 

Jericho

Consummate Brushlicker
Originally posted by Modderrhu
I\'ve had that same little knob at the very tippy-tip of a Series 7. Yeah, it\'s like one hair is every so slightly longer than the rest and paint gathers on it. It happens with paint thinned 1:5 with water even. Also, frequent rinsing doesn\'t help, the paint will build up after half an hour or so.

It can be infuriatingly tricky to do, but once it has got its knob, try to separate the hair from the others, then nip it off the nail clippers. Fixed mine right up, just expect to swear, curse and spit blood while you try to separate that hair from the rest. lol
This has happened to me a couple of times with various brushes including my Series 7 set. I got the same impression, that one hair was slightly longer than the rest. I usually fix this with a tweezer and not a clipper :D
 
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