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[diddy lemon1]

from personal experience don\'t aim so high, i don\'t mean to be horrible or sly but 5 or even 10 times the quality of the model is falling dam short of a slayer sword. The higher the aim the greater the distance to fall so aim for something a bit more realistic.

 

[lono]

Originally posted by the catman
as an example you could say skatebourding (pretty random but bare with me) you want too go down a ramp but your not sure-you dont want to fall-
but if you KNOW your going down that ramp, skating to the next one then doing an ollie onto the platform then your will go down the ramp, go to the next one and probbably fall of, BUT YOU WENT DOWN THE RAMP.
the point is-if the first ramp is a yb goden deamon-the next ramp is a adult deamon-and the ollie is the sword.

It\'s not a bad metaphor, but just bear in mind that the Slayer Sword is no simple ollie. More more like a 540 christ air frontside finger-flip variation to darkslide grind, flip out transfer to a 300ft salad grind whilst singing Bohemian Rhapsody and performing puppet theater.

Just to put things in perspective!

 

[the catman]

lono-could you tell me which catogries are weaker.
ime entering-
1.large scale
2.yb/wfb single
3.lotr single
4.40k monster

the catman

p.s-is that a real move???

 

[lono]

The quality of the top three in any category is almost always too strong to say any category is weak as far as winners go. There\'s no knowing which category is going to throw up the most amazing entries.

Having said that I do think there are some categories it may be easier to make final cut in.

It\'s in no way an exact list, but going off a bit of experience, weighing up number of entries, quality of the stuff getting through, number of entry options etc. it\'s something like this for me. (Running from easier to harder with approximate \'easiness\' brackets):

40k Monster
Warhammer 40k Vehicle
Warhammer Monster
-
Warhammer Regiment
Open
40k Squad
-
Duel
Diorama
Large
-
Young Blood
Warhammer Single
40k Single
LoTR Single Mini

But I\'m sure other folks around here would probably disagree with that list if they could be bothered to think about it! At the end of the day that\'s just my opinion and it\'s nowhere near scientific enough to sway what entries you should focus on. Hell, even if it was more scientific and calculated it still shouldn\'t have any impact on what category you enter. I\'m not going to consider it as a factor when I try and do my entries, It\'ll be more about what I want to do and think I will most enjoy making.

I\'ll be having a go at working my way down this list of entries so you should probably avoid them if you are serious about getting Gold :

Large
40k Monster
Warhammer Monster
Duel
Open or Diorama

I may manage to get the first one done if I start now knowing my track record.

And it\'s not a trick that would be possible, but it is a combination of real tricks (other than the Bohemian Rhapsody and puppet theatre)!

 

[the catman]

also am I allowed to put wip on here on my enteries or does it all have to be done by me.
if I do do wip can lono and anyone else who judges NOT reply because james/the cadian did this and then he didnt get a pin/badge from lono because he(lono) helped him(the cadien).
(so no offence)

the catman

btw-what does everyone else think of my ideas enteries.
st catherine will be a converted model of
-the living saint with a \"done up\" face, pegasus wings that are folded and instead of a sword a flaming torch from the mordheim wich hunter model.
:innocent:

 

[Starks333]

keep you ambition, but dont remind everyone, keep it to yourself, you will feel like less of a failure if you dont win it(because everyone knows you failed) you will still earn the respect of everyone if you do win

next, what you need to learn to even have a chance:

-washes, thin tranasparent paint applied in layers to affect brightness
-glazes, thin transparent layers applied to affect colour
-smooth blending(proper application of above techniques)
-colour theory(how to mix colours, what colours to use to create atmosphere or a well rounded mini)
-light and how it affects things
-some other things that depend on the model

and several hundred hours of work on a single mini

Vincent Hudon(Silphid) is one of the best examples of pure dedication to improvement, improving as quickly as he did to win the Slayer so fast, but he was much older and didnt face up against the same level of talent as you will be


i wish you good luck, aim for small improvements every time you touch the brush, be patient, learn everything you can, and work hard


Starks

 

[the catman]

I do know all those things.
but for blending I use layering.
this is just because in \"how to paint citadel minitures\" it dosent explane it very well.
also in the book it says that it teaches you every tequnick(sp.)
it misses out advances stuff like nmm/se-nmm/osl etc etc.
I think this is because rick preistly isnt a very good painter.
Ill try and take some pics of a model I did yesterday.
I think its still not my best but first I need to charge up the camera.

the catman

 

[Starks333]

if you know everything then why are you asking all these questions

if you knew how light affects things you wouldnt ask about NMM or OSL because youd already know

if you knew how to apply the techniques your models wouldnt be messy

if you knew colour theory you wouldnt have to ask what colours to use

if you knew improvement takes time you wouldnt be rushing

if you wanted help you wouldnt make excuses and argue with everyone


is this clear enough for you?




Starks

 

[the catman]

I never said I know everything.
im not great I know. arnt I allowed to ask questions.
WHEN did I say I know light affects and nmm. I DID say I can do them. arnt I allowed to try and get better.
yes I know my models are messy. Im trying to get better at that. cant I do that either???
I know a bit of colour theory but am I not allowed to ask for opinions.
I know improvment takes time. are you and everyone else on here think im a complete idiot.
If I want to improve then someone really pissed me of then im not allowed to argue and cant I say what I think and disagree. Iv done what iv done can I not make a reall excuse. maybe I dindnt have any help then. is that my fault.

so thanks for telling me (in other words) that im an idiot who cant paint but I think I can, what you dont seem to realise is that I think I can paint. I dont care about other peoples opions I care about MINE.
if you want to compliment me you can. if you think im crap then what the hell is the point of saying that. answer that for me.
I know the boundarie between constructive critism and \"your crap, get good\".

is that clear enough for you.

 

[AinuLainour]

Meh Starks is very \"to-the-point\". I wouldn\'t worry about it.

 

[Starks333]

Originally posted by the catman
I never said I know everything.
im not great I know. arnt I allowed to ask questions.
WHEN did I say I know light affects and nmm. I DID say I can do them. arnt I allowed to try and get better.

look up one post, its your very first line, i gave you a good well rounded group of topics to learn about to help you improve, and you completely dismissed it all because you \"knew\" all about it...so i simply proved you wrong hoping youd realise theres more to it than just put paint here and there

yes I know my models are messy. Im trying to get better at that. cant I do that either???

you argued in one thread that you can paint cleanly, then proceed to show pictures of a model that was still messy...why are you arguing if you agree??

If I want to improve then someone really pissed me of then im not allowed to argue and cant I say what I think and disagree. Iv done what iv done can I not make a reall excuse. maybe I dindnt have any help then. is that my fault.

there was nothing i said that said you cannot do something, my point was, a lot of what you have been saying has either been an excuse to ignore someones comments, or claiming you already know

if you want to compliment me you can. if you think im crap then what the hell is the point of saying that. answer that for me.
I know the boundarie between constructive critism and \"your crap, get good\".

im going to compliment you when you deserve it, when you\'ve earned respect, and have made an achievement...

I will not compliment you if you insist on arguing with everyone, and being a whiner(even if you are young) when someone presents you with a realistic reply(like in your commission thread)

i have given you the basic ideas of what you need to learn to get better, ask more about those, and you wont need to ask the questions you have been asking as they are simply apart of what i listed

if things are too advanced, sit down, and think about them, and think about specific questions that will help you learn them....

heres a head start:

dilute paint with water, thin transparent layers of paint(washes and glazes) are the essential tools to blending

white primer is better as it allows more brightness from a colour, grey is fine and some like black even though it darkens all the colour...some prime black and then dust with white to help with lighting and shading



Starks