Daemonette WIP (NSFW, duh)

Flightless

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Daemonette WIP

Having survived my house being flooded, I am now finally able to return to the hobby.
I've been frustrated with my Imperial Guard. Every single basic infantry model is modified to the extent that they take ages to put together. I needed a break from that. Naturally, I decided that the best thing to do would be to buy something else where every single basic infantry model is modified to the extent that they take ages to put together...

Plenty to be done with her, but I'm pleased with how it's going so far. I do most of my sculpting little bit by little bit, meaning each previous part has to mostly cure before I continue - I am not the most patient person in the world, so to ease my annoyance at nothing being able to be done with her for a couple of hours I am posting here for some kind of feedback.
Also, it's putting off the time until I have to add her left nipple and risk ruining that ring, which I am rather pleased with despite being slightly mispositioned.

Bring on the annoyingly tall photo:

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I thought my biggest issue was going to be replacing the current daemonettes' missing breast with a matching one. Turns out the real problem was getting the one that did exist to look reasonable. Having hacked off rather a lot of it, I think they're still fairly large. I'm hoping that the shape is at least somewhat natural now (note to Alex Hedström: these may be daemons and all, but hemispherical is not a good shape. Seriously).
OK, I'll shut up now. Sounds like I have a fixation.

Photos aren't the quality I'd like - that was as many bulbs as I could get and it's still dark. Methinks the camera is to blame.

Anyway. Bleh. Feel free to comment. Be gentle.
 
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Flightless

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Hmm. No idea why. It shows up fine for me.

Direct picture link

Photobucket page link

Just noticed that Photobucket must have a maximum size on pictures - it's shrunk this one. Ah well, no point in uploading anything that shows it any larger until:
1) There's more work done to it (already has been)
and
2) I have a different camera with which to take the photos! (should be tomorrow)
 

Flightless

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Daemonette WIP

Right. New camera acquired. My goodness does it make a lot of difference. With luck, here's some images of her as she stands now:

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The last set of large photos made me see that I'd made some parts very oddly shaped - hopefully she looks a little more natural now. Unfortunately, whilst I am fairly sure the green stuff is smoothed into the plastic well, in these photos it looks awfully ragged. I'd rather know which it is before I apply any paint.
While I do have plenty of issues with the kit, especially compared to just the general look of Diaz' sculpts, Hedström has nailed the faces perfectly.

Now I suppose that, whilst she does have the Venus de Milo look to her at the moment, I think she'd better get some arms.
Also, a question:
Usually I prefer to have things that make physical sense - i.e. grenades that don't just magically stick to waists, that sort of thing. As she is now, that chastity belt sort of thing reaches her tail and just stops, which is pretty weird. If I continue it either side of her tail I think it'd ruin its shape, and also make the tail look like part of the garment itself. Despite making no sense, do you think it is ok to leave it as it is?
 

Prophecy07

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You could have it come around one side, or wrap around the legs garter-belt style.

Weird as it is, this is the second time I've had to mention this on these forums: Daemonettes have dicks. Female bits too, but there are sausages under dem dere loincloths...
 

Prophecy07

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I'm starting to wonder if I'm a closet homosexual: I see scrotums in ork armour, Tim Curry's Dr. Frank N. Furter in other orks, and keep bringing up the trouser pythons between the legs of the nice pretty daemonettes.

...Don't tell my girlfriend.
 

Flightless

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@Prophecy07:
I hadn't thought of doing anything asymmetric. More fool me - both myself and apparently Slaanesh are fans of it. The garter-belt-style idea will be reserved for others - I think i'd do it more justice if designed that way. Thanks!
As to their hermaphroditic nature: Yeah, I was aware of that. But I'm calling artistic license. Amongst the host that should hopefully grow up after this one you should see plenty of variation though. I think most people think of daemonettes as completely female - GW included, for all their overuse recently of the horrible vertical divide on the torso. The way those loincloths hang betray no male parts either. So like them, I'll claim that what you can't see is just 'undefined'...
And if you're worried about your tendency to see certain things then this thread should become a nightmare for you as it progresses, with any luck ;)

@SkelettetS:
Thanks! I am bored of loincloths. GW use them everywhere. I don't know what their love for them is all about. Besides, I wanted a decent theme - I see a lot of Slaaneshi forces whose theme is pretty much lots of female units (not even hermaphrodite, Prophecy07). So I'm going for a bit more of a BDSM theme instead.
 

Rugne

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Maybe she just tucked one inside the other before strapping on the chastity belt?

Marc
 

Prophecy07

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Maybe she just tucked one inside the other before strapping on the chastity belt?

Marc

*shudder*

Nah, man. I fully support artistic license. Do your thing. I just like bringing it up because it creeps people out. Hell...it creeps me out. Back in the old WFB Chaos days (when daemons were part of the army and there was none of this "Chaos Undivided" BS) I refused to use Slaneesh just because s/he creeps me the hell out.

All about Nurgle and Tzeentch, baby. Course, you couldn't use them together... Damn GW for making me buy enough models for two armies!

My younger self has nothing to complain about though; how many armies do I have now? Considerably more than that...
 

Flightless

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Not much, but I am trying to use the existence of a WiP log to get myself motivated. Thus, progress:

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More detail to be added in the next pass. These daemonettes are completely covered in little bands and things. Diaz' ones were just so much cleaner. Breaks up the large expanses of skin, admittedly, but it doesn't fit what I want.
I am both looking forward to and dreading paint. When I stop and paint, all the imperfections in the surfaces of this model will show up clear as day. Also, I'm not all that confident with paint - I'm rather pleased with this one, and really don't want to screw it up.
 

Chrome

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I still haven't decided what I think of these new daemonettes, They are way better sculpts than the previous ones but those were beautiful, these are not quite as beautiful despite being better sculpts.
 

Flightless

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@Prophecy07:
Heh, yeah. I just didn't think to take a photo from the other side because there's nothing there! Just that basic 'hook' sort of shape that you can see. I'm steering away from ornamentation - on the common daemonettes at least I want them to be functional more than anything.

@Chrome:
I can't help but think part of it comes from the fact they're multipart plastic. I love plastic kits. So much so that I intend not to use any metal whatsoever. However it does seem that in many cases, in the transition to plastic the poses become so much more generic. With so much interchangeability, uniqueness and character dwindle. Hedström's are just standing around, Diaz's are part of a collective dance. The need for interchangeable parts also requires more joints - hence the bands around the upper arms, the chunky basques and loincloths. I have nothing against that per se (despite removing them for the purposes of this particular vision), but sadly the purity and cleanness of many sculpts is perforce lost.
Still, I like these; they're better for conversion purposes (in both material and shape), and the large eyes have a lot of potential - they remind me of D&D Changelings. I'm not quite sure how I intend to paint them (perlescent white would be ideal, but how can I paint perlescence at that size?), but that's probably the part I look forward to most of all.
 

Flightless

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Well then. Other than a little filing to smooth out some rough areas and getting her base sorted, I think I'm actually done. Unless anyone has any points they'd like to make, of course.

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Originally I was intending actual cuts (inspired by Allan Carrasco's work; see below), but for some reason I ended up sculpting welts. I think perhaps they're a bit more interesting. If I was going for realistic I suppose there'd be a lot more, but for the sake of clarity on the model I imagined less would work better.

Feedback as ever appreciated.

And now some links, both for your edification and for my reference!
Allan Carrasco's Daemonette is superb and inspired the whip-marks. I gather it was he that released a resin version, modified so as to not infringe copyrights - jarhead's painted version.
Concept art apparently for a fiend of Slaanesh, but never used. Look out for something inspired by this at a later date, with any luck.
Concept art by daarken of daemonettes for Warhammer Online. For me, this look is a better evolution of Diaz's daemonettes into something darker and more bestial, as daemons should really be. I wonder if Allan was inspired by these?..
 

Flightless

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It's nice to see the WIP forum moving so quickly! Clearly a lot of people have been pushing hard with the hobby with the new year!

Such a tiny amount done, but I think I'm calling it quits now. Unless someone spots some hideous area I need to tidy up before this green stuff cures and I can undercoat her (anything you cannot see in any one post will not have changed since the preceding posts).
A couple more welts added to the back:
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I think that's enough to make it look like a reasonably good lashing without overwhelming the back side of this figure, but also to centre the welts on the backside of this figure (note strategic use and lack of a space there).

@Prophecy07:
Even now, true, she has not suffered anything like the unfortunate featured in the photo you linked. However, these are only weals from a recent whipping, not scars from one or more heavy sessions. The flesh is merely raised - a little more pronounced admittedly than if she were scaled up, but such is the way with miniatures. Hopefully once they are paimted a blush colour it will look alright.

What's that, I hear you ask? Why is the base green?
It is an experiment. One that may well go horribly horribly wrong. Here's a close-up shot, but please don't judge until you read my explanation.
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When I see it like this, even I think it looks like someone just pressed a blob of green stuff over the base with their thumb. Which is in sooth what I have done, but I have expended a small degree of art in the doing. That fingerprinting which you see is intentional. I am very much hoping that it will lend it just enough subtle texture to be brought out when painted.
With a lot of luck, the ground here will be painted to resemble flesh. I am aware it could be a big mistake, but one never learns without failure - a base can be replaced, and it does not impinge overly on the figure. In the event of success, it will be overly bland to be sure, but this is after all a prototype.
(As far as fluff goes, it is the surface of one of the Prince's daemon worlds)

If anyone has ever seen anything similar attempted, please link me an example; I would be very grateful for anything that shows how to make something look somewhat fleshy without the body shape present to guide the mind's eye.

And to address the first concern I myself would have upon being presented with such an intention were I not to know: Contrast should be fine - the skin of the daemonette will not be conventionally flesh-coloured. More to come when I prepare to paint and come to realise I cannot afford surprises and need to plea for advice :p .
 

PegaZus

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The one thing that jumps out at me to make the base look more like flesh is to put some fine hairs in it, mostly where two lines connect. Problem is, I don't think what you've got has enough wrinkles. Now, maybe if you made the hairs small enough to make the flesh base look really small, it might work as is. But just staring at the back and palm of my hand, I think you're going to need some better defined lines in order to make it look more like flesh.
 
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