Wearing glasses while painting

Guidebot

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Hello all; I`m guidebot, new poster. Nice to finally post here.

I have almost perfect eyesight, but after a friend told me about wearing glasses for painting I gave it a try. I borrowed his pair, which make everything just a little bigger, and I was amazed at the difference they made. So, I went to a shop and bought a cheapish off-the-shelf pair that provide a (very slight) magnification (they`re a +1.5, whatever that means).

The main benefits:
-Fine detail work is much easier because things are slightly bigger. I found that this improved my brush control and overall quality of my work noticeably.

-Eye strain is reduced. Anybody who spends much time painting miniatures will know that focusing on small things, often close to your eyes, especially for longer periods of time, will strain your eyes. You can feel them getting tired and it can become a problem. I found that wearing these glasses means that my eyes don't need to strain so much, which is really nice. That said, I take a break (at least 20 seconds of looking at something far away) every 20 minutes to rest my eyes with or without the glasses and would recommend the same to anyone.

So I have two questions:
-Does anyone else here wear glasses specific to painting and miniatures work? If so, what have your experiences been and do you have any advice?

-Does anyone know if wearing glasses for long time periods (e.g. an hour or even a bit more) when you actually don't need them can do any harm? I`ve googled it to death and I asked at a couple of glasses shops but I have no definitive answer (the general consensus seems to be no). I've studied biology and very basic medicine and I can't think of a good reason to worry, if I take regular breaks and don't wear them too long, but I still worry a bit!

To anyone who hasn`t tried this, I`d say give it a go. You can get off the shelf reading glasses for almost no money and the difference to comfort and quality of work is amazing. I refer to my glasses as "cheat mode" to my painting friends because it really does feel like I can do things with them that are so just so much worse without.

Sorry for the essay =)
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
I wear reading glasses for anything inside 3 feet and clip on magnifiers for mini painting. so I understand where you are coming from.

Frequent breaks ARE essential as your eyes are designed to constantly adjust focus. Taking off the glasses and looking elsewhere will allow you to "rest them" I have to do that regularly at work from the monitor screens.
While you are young your eyes as with all muscles/muscle groups are more 'viable' to changes, it's as you get older (no comments thank you) that the flexibility decreases and everything takes longer to react, your eyes are the most prominent examples.

Try not to depend on them ALL the time but when using them ensure good light and rest often.
 

Bailey03

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I wear similar glasses just for painting. I think mine are +1.25 (the figure is 25% larger). A lot of modelers (meaning vehicle modelers and not just painters) use optivisors which can provide a lot more magnification. I tried using my dad's but found them too awkward to work with. I don't see special glasses as a cheat, just a common tool like anything else.

I agree, it reduces the strain on my eyes. Before using them if I painted for a while and then looked up, it would take my eyes longer than usual to adjust and anything far away would be blurry for a few seconds. I just wear them for painting. If I look up and try to focus on the tv or something far away for more than a few seconds while wearing them I can really start to feel my eyes straining to the point it becomes painful. Anything that keeps your eyes from straining should be fine to wear for long periods, at long as you use it for what it's designed for.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
I wear +1.50 for reading - my arms got too short.
I wear +2.00 or +3.00 when I paint or do very tiny work (soldering on a PC board, etc.)

I've been trying to learn to use something similar to these:
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But the depth of field is very specific. Too far away and you get blurry, too close and you get blurry. See that "x420"? That is how far away you have to be to see anything.
 

Ninja_Butler

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Magnifying lamp, £25 in UK money: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/22w-fluorescent-daylight-magnifier-lamp-a29ff
Unless you're broke, BUY ONE! Every miniature painter should have one, they are an essential item. Reading glasses can be great too, but unless they are of the correct prescription they can cause eyestrain; in your case you have no prescription so I guess off-the-shelf reading glasses are okay; off-the-shelf reading glasses have the same lens in both sides, prescription reading glasses are matched to each eye.
 

Sproket

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I wear glasses for middle distance vision but my closeup vision has always been very good. As I've gotten older it's become harder to hold my close up focus for more than 30 mins. for My optician advised me to get a pair of 'cheap' +1 reading glasses for painting minis and now I wouldn't consider painting without them! With the reading glasses I can happily paint all day long,with regular breaks just as Dragonsreach advises - they are important.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Magnifying lamp, £25 in UK money: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/22w-fluorescent-daylight-magnifier-lamp-a29ff
Unless you're broke, BUY ONE! Every miniature painter should have one, they are an essential item. Reading glasses can be great too, but unless they are of the correct prescription they can cause eyestrain; in your case you have no prescription so I guess off-the-shelf reading glasses are okay; off-the-shelf reading glasses have the same lens in both sides, prescription reading glasses are matched to each eye.
Sorry, but a single lens can distort the Depth of Field we use to focus on a single point. Better to use something which allows binocular focus.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
That, and I hit the back of my brushes against the glass on one of those swing-arm things.
 

Ninja_Butler

New member
Sorry, but a single lens can distort the Depth of Field we use to focus on a single point. Better to use something which allows binocular focus.

That's a good point, but I still think a magnifying lamp is useful because it allows you to"zoom" in and out and switch back to unmagnified view - and it's a lamp. I've never tried an optivisor or whatever those magnifying headsets are called but I'm tempted to buy one now that you mention it.
 

Demihuman

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I am near sighted, i can see very good close up but need glasses to for everything else. I can usually focus for about 30 minutes at a time. I have tried reading glasses but I find that they make me cross eyed when I take them off. I have a pair of cheap 4X's that I keep handy to check my work, but if I look through them for more then a a minute or so I get wicked cross-eyed. I have some 2X's that I can wear for longer but after an hour or so of wearing them I get cross-eyed as well. If I wear my contact lenses, and the reading glasses I don't go cross eyed, but my contacts don't correct for my astigmatism so that, plus magnification is still not quite as good as my naked eye, for now.

Lot's of breaks are key. I paint about 15 to 30 minutes and then look at CMON. Or if i am working hard on project I have to look out the window or make a cup of tea. I also need a bit of warm up painting, or need to feel very fresh to do the really small stuff.

Next trip to the eye doctor I am going to see if I can't get some 'nice' reading glasses that won't make me cross-eyed.
 

Silverwulfe

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I too have fairly good close vision and trying the reading glasses (1.5x seemed the best) helps a bit more. As my astigmatism is greater than 9 (meaning I have 20/200 vision aprox. or is that 200/20? What people can see at 200 feet, I can see at 20!), my problem is that my depth of field is crap! The sweet spot is about 3-6 inches. So either I'm trading in and out to be able to see well or leaning over a lot. I need reverse bifocals... or at least that seems how it would be... my normal prescription at the bottom and magnification at the top. Either that or I need a paint platform that moves like my lamp... actually, that might be a LOT cheaper. Then I can just float it up around where I have my model and just go back and forth without the up and down....
Now to find such an animal...
 
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gorkymorky

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you also have a chance to wreck your eyesight if you wear glasses you don't normally need so i'd be weary just buy a magnifier
 

LadySummerisle

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Does anybody know of something I could wear with my glasses? I have really bad eyesight, I don't usually wear contacts and my glasses are pretty large (square ray-ban's) I do have a magnifying lamp but I'd like to try something for binocular magnification. Thanks!
 
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