Vallejo Surface Primer bubbling - brush application

[humsi31]

I just wanted to get some feedback from other users of Vallejo's white surface primer applied with a brush (not with an air-brush).

When I apply the black primer with a brush, it goes on wonderfully smooth and one coat is absolutely enough. However, the white primer (at least the bottle that I have) does have one issue, that drives me mad. Because the pigment seperates quickly in the bottle from the carrier, it needs one hell of a shake before it can be used, but when I then pour it onto the palette, small air-bubbles are present in the primer and also appear on the mini when I prime. In an air-brush that's not an issue as the process of pushing the paint through with pressure reduces the bubbles and the coat goes on smoothly on the mini.

Anybody else experience the same issue? If I am not carefully blowing on the mini to get rid of the bubbles as soon as I have put the primer on, this leaves really ugly bubble marks and ruins it. Otherwise this is a bloody good primer to brush on once it has been left to cure for at least 48 hours.

Thanks for your feed-back.

 

[Zab]

Nah dude. Even through the AB Vallejo white is shit. Mix in a little black to get a lighter grey and it should fix the problem. If you can get your hands on some I have heard badgers new line of primers is awesome for brush on. Haven't found a place to buy it yet...

 

[humsi31]

I have no problems shooting the VA white primer throught the airbrush. Goes on really nice an smooth, it's just the brush application that bugs the hell out of me because of the bubble issue.
As I can't have my airbrush setup permanently (because of a lack of space). I brush priming, as I am actually quicker that way rather, considering the time it takes to setup and clean my airbrush, hence my question.
Thanks for the suggestion of mixing some black. I'll give it a shot when I prime the next batch to see how it goes.

 

[EpicMiniArt]

try mixing a little black primer into the white primer so its more of a very light grey and you might find it will go on better. ive never brushed any primer though only AB

 

[Zab]

I'm also going to try badgers new line as i found a place near me that sells it. If James Wappel loves it for priming it can't be evil. Right? RIGHT?!

 

[moetle]

Right!

You'll be the first guinea pi....err person with an unbiased opinion I know to try it out. Not a fan of their minitaire stuff, too many bad experiences. I do love their airbrushes though.

 

[Zab]

I love their ABs too, but minitaire paints? Blech what the hell went wrong? glossy so very glossy. the ghost tints have their uses but are impossible to get.

 

[silencer TW]

Greetings
I have a question of Vallejo white primer too.
I bought 2 bottles of 60 ml primer from China, one is black one is white.
The white one has strong smell,but the black does not has smell like the other Vallejo paints.
Is that normal?Or I got fake one?

 

[Splurch]

As already mentioned, look into Badger's Stynylrez for white. It doesn't separate nearly as fast as Vallejo's and, at least with an airbrush, covers much better. I would expect it to work better with a brush as well since Badger's white is not as thin as Vallejo's.

 

[moetle]

I love their ABs too, but minitaire paints? Blech what the hell went wrong? glossy so very glossy. the ghost tints have their uses but are impossible to get.

I can usually find a whole set of ghost tints on amazon but the prices can vary. I hate the stickyness that forms on the needle after just a few uses. I have full bottles of most of the set, I can mail them to you if your wanting to use them as I probably wont anymore.

 

[Zab]

I can usually find a whole set of ghost tints on amazon but the prices can vary. I hate the stickyness that forms on the needle after just a few uses. I have full bottles of most of the set, I can mail them to you if your wanting to use them as I probably wont anymore.

Thanks mate but i have all the ghost tints need MiG makes something similar that i am going to try as well as createx has these nice semi transparent candy coats too. Hmm, I have a lot of paint. I'm sure that's normal. Oh well, off to buy more

 

[Alabama]

I know my Vallejo model air gray primer seems to want to peel off after I spray it on. Haven't been happy with it at all.