Vallejo paint pigment seperation???
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james sequeira
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i found with game colour charred brown which i use to wash and glaze stones.if i pass a certain point after a wash consitancy it separates itself on my pallet even on the model/base 
james sequeira
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ah a smart idea finn have a beer on me you\'ll have to buy it though
Well done Vallejo!
They replied to me, which is an unusual thing in this business...here is what they said:
Hello. Thank you for letting us in on this. We don’t know how to get an answer into that forum. We would like to ask “Clover” to send us the green color “Game Color” , and if not possible, to send us the color number? At any rate, we would recommend our “Diluyente – Thinner” Game Color Ref. 72073 to thin down the colors, rather than water, because water comes in many different (and some surprising) states, depending on where you live. Our Thinner has the same consistency as the color, and will support the pigments evenly, whereas when water is used, colours made with various pigments will have the heavier pigment sink and/or separate quickly.
But of course something may be wrong with the color as well. We keep samples of each batch, and a priori these are fine. Transport and storage conditions, freezing and thawing, extreme heat or cold, all these may affect a product.
Anyway, sorry to hear that something is not as it should be! Cordially, Vallejo.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Steveapted@aol.com [mailto:Steveapted@aol.com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 30 de agosto de 2006 21:32
Para: vallejo@acrylicosvallejo.com
Asunto: Paint separation?
Clover..do you think you could do as they request?
This is their email:
vallejo@acrylicosvallejo.com
Props for the prompt response though!
They replied to me, which is an unusual thing in this business...here is what they said:
Hello. Thank you for letting us in on this. We don’t know how to get an answer into that forum. We would like to ask “Clover” to send us the green color “Game Color” , and if not possible, to send us the color number? At any rate, we would recommend our “Diluyente – Thinner” Game Color Ref. 72073 to thin down the colors, rather than water, because water comes in many different (and some surprising) states, depending on where you live. Our Thinner has the same consistency as the color, and will support the pigments evenly, whereas when water is used, colours made with various pigments will have the heavier pigment sink and/or separate quickly.
But of course something may be wrong with the color as well. We keep samples of each batch, and a priori these are fine. Transport and storage conditions, freezing and thawing, extreme heat or cold, all these may affect a product.
Anyway, sorry to hear that something is not as it should be! Cordially, Vallejo.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Steveapted@aol.com [mailto:Steveapted@aol.com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 30 de agosto de 2006 21:32
Para: vallejo@acrylicosvallejo.com
Asunto: Paint separation?
Clover..do you think you could do as they request?
This is their email:
vallejo@acrylicosvallejo.com
Props for the prompt response though!
demonherald
New member
here here vallejo......good thinking Finn and hat\'s off to them for the reply.
There are so many of these threads on this and other forums that it will be interesting to see if they have a good look at it.
I shake the living hell out of the paints everytime I use them If you fnd when your squeezing the paint out a little clear liquid comes with it then it simply isn\'t mixed enough and your onto a loser from the start as each time you do tis your thickening the pigment content and askingfor seperation.
I use the thinner when I want to do glazes etc but ther than that no problems to report.
There are so many of these threads on this and other forums that it will be interesting to see if they have a good look at it.
I shake the living hell out of the paints everytime I use them If you fnd when your squeezing the paint out a little clear liquid comes with it then it simply isn\'t mixed enough and your onto a loser from the start as each time you do tis your thickening the pigment content and askingfor seperation.
I use the thinner when I want to do glazes etc but ther than that no problems to report.
WoW thanks for going directly to vallejo Finn!!
The 3 greens that are giving me trouble are 32 Scorpy Green (the worst), 72028 Dark Green (sometimes ok), and 72030 Goblin Green (sometimes ok)
I use a wet pallete with filtered tap water so it sounds like that is a major reason for the seperation. Though there is heavy seperation in the bottle before I even pour it out. Maybe I will try getting a jug of distilled water and stick with that. I really like my wet pallete, it\'s wonderful for mixing, so I\'m gonna have a hard time giving it up. Though maybe I will try using their solution for the troublesome colors.
The 3 greens that are giving me trouble are 32 Scorpy Green (the worst), 72028 Dark Green (sometimes ok), and 72030 Goblin Green (sometimes ok)
I use a wet pallete with filtered tap water so it sounds like that is a major reason for the seperation. Though there is heavy seperation in the bottle before I even pour it out. Maybe I will try getting a jug of distilled water and stick with that. I really like my wet pallete, it\'s wonderful for mixing, so I\'m gonna have a hard time giving it up. Though maybe I will try using their solution for the troublesome colors.
