Vallejo orange skin

[Cerridwyn1st]

I painted a mini using Vallejo Dwarf Flesh as my base coat, then layered up through Elf Flesh and highlit with Pale Flesh.

The finished mini had an orange cast. Poor thing looks like she\'s wearing cheap foundation.

Anyone else experience this? Got any suggestions on how to avoid this in the future?

 

[MaestroOfMayhem]

Add brown? Don\'t use that paint again?

 

[frenchkid]

I think vallejo\'s skin paints are knowne for doing that, Chrispy even uses them for painting NMM gold in stead of skin On most tutorials I\'v read the painters use the brown range of paints to do their skin

 

[GunjiNoKanrei]

You might try mixing in a bit Dead Flesh. The greenish touch might offset the orange.

 

[Cosmotiger]

I use either Medium Flesh or Flat Brown to tone down the orange. IMO, the fleshtones are the weakest part of Vallejo\'s paint lines (both Model- and Game Color). Most paint manufacturers seem to have problems with getting them right.

 

[Cerridwyn1st]

Thanks for the info

Thanks for the good info, guys. I never had any issues with Reaper skin colors. Of course, I haven\'t really used them since I upgraded my painting practices. I may give them another try. I\'ll also try adding dead flesh to my Vallejos to see how that works out.

I\'ve also got some of the Model Color Basic Fleshtone, which I haven\'t tried yet.

Reaper is supposed to be releasing Master Paints (in little dropper bottles like Vallejo) as soon as they complete their move to new digs. Many of the same colors as the current range, but in a better quality of paint. I may give those a try when they hit the market.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Cerridwyn1st:

I\'ve also got some of the Model Color Basic Fleshtone, which I haven\'t tried yet.

All the Vallejo paint\'s I\'ve got are the Model Colour range. The Basic Fleshtone is a mid range tan, and can look a little odd over a Black undercoat. As we\'ve discussed elsewhere I\'ve tried the \"Jen Haley Recipe\" for mixing skintone from Vallejo. I found this to be a little pale sometimes, but that could just be due to my being used to the GW colours. By using a warmer wash for the tonal shadows I\'ve ended up with a result I can work with and tweak to suite my purposes.

I\'ve used and demonstrated the Citadel Flesh method working up from Tanned flesh all the way through to Pallid flesh and found that it works Ok on most mini\'s.
However there are some that it makes their faces look as if they are suffering from extreme high blood pressure! Just like this chap ->

I\'m going to be painting a few Reaper and Rackham figures soon so I\'ll be trying various recipes and combinations and will let you know how they pan out.

 

[Cerridwyn1st]

Mixed methods

Mike:

Remember when I sent youi pictures for my second attempt at the CMON Amazon for you to critique? At the time I did that piece, I was trying to learn Jen Haley\'s method for painting faces.

The suggestions you offered then changed how I do faces. I use a technique very similar to that shown on Paintrix, but I\'ve added in shading to the sides of the nose, under the nose, and just beneith the lips as you suggested on my Amazon.

The result is faces like the Fairy that I\'m using for my current Avatar and the face of Lucrezia Belladonna. For Lucrezia, I added shadows to he hollows of her cheeks as well.

I\'d be really happy with my faces if it weren\'t for the orange tinge I\'ve gotten using Dwarf Flesh as a base (Doh!)

The point is, you might like the method better if you mix it with what you are used to. Use a base that is a little lighter than what you normally use, but maybe not as light as Jen uses. Try priming white, or painting under the skin white.

The multiple thin layers, starting from a white base, creates a translucent quality to the skin of the miniature. This works really well with \"young\" faces that don\'t have a lot of wrinkles or stress lines.

So Jen\'s method produces youthful faces that really look youthful. They have this beautiful glow that can\'t be achieved by other methods.

I think your method would tend to work better with faces showing a lot of age or emotion.

Try a couple of times painting exactly as she shows. Then modify to suit your own tastes, practices, and the subject matter.

You won\'t have the main problem I did - NO BLOODY BRUSH SKILLS! That was my major issue - having the ability to paint what I was looking at. lol

I swear, it\'s taken me six months to start producing decent results from copying that method, and most of it was just improving how I paint!

 

[Dr. Bob]

I usually wash with chestnut ink over white primer - that\'s the \"basecoat\" essentially. I use Vallejo Flat Flesh for the first highlights, then mix a little Ivory or White to the flesh for the final highlights.

Using very few layers keeps the skin from being too \"opaque,\" and mixing in the Ivory/White cuts down on the \"orange-ness.\"

In the \"raw,\" the Vallejo fleshtones are admittedly orangey.