Super Dungeon Explore and the Minis

count zero99uk

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Hi all, im getting myself the board game for xmas, however im also thinking of picking up the stand alone minis ive seen as well for this game. Can anyone confirm if they are different to what you get in the box set.

Below are the standalone mini packs ive seen.

Kobold Flingers
Kobold Gougers
Kobold Knuckleheads
Kobold Ironscales
Kobold Dragon Priest
Demonkin Rogue
Dwarf Fighter
Human Mage
Human Paladin
Elf Ranger

If however these are the same as the ones you get in the box, i may well spend my money on something different.

Thanks all.
Brian.
 

MAXXxxx

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I don't have the metal kobolds, but what I have are the same. The details seem to be a bit crisper in the SDE box. I guess, that as the heroes are the same, the kobolds are also not different to the metal ones.
 

MAXXxxx

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for example the demonkin-rouge's face is much more defined than the one I painted in metal, so I'd say yes.
Of course this could be that I got the metal minis from an early batch, where others have also written, that the details are not defined enough. So what's in the box is much better than those, and either better or same as the later batch.

All in all I really like the SDE box.

now to clean the contents, it's 'only' about 200 pieces. :)
 
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Bloodshovel

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There is a limited edition "Candy and Cola" hero model that is only available in metal. I think it's only available with pre-orders and at cons though.

A couple of things to think about in the metal vs plastic:
- All the models you need come in plastic in the box.
- Plastic is a little more detailed, but assembles differently and in some cases looses detail because of it. (the metal dwarf fighter's shield is a separate piece, but in the plastic it's attached to his arm as so, there's more contact area on it and it looks less like a separate object.) In general the plastic has deeper(more pronounced) details, but looses details for the sake of being easier to assemble.
- The box comes with bases with flagstones carved into them. the metal ones have smooth surfaces.
- The plastic is a LOT more prone to flashing. Took 2 afternoons to clean off all the flash from the box. Some of the flash is super subtle, and I didn't realize it was there until I got paint on the mini.:( as for the candy+cola I got with my preorder and the dwarf I had bought a while back, they cleaned up in almost no time.
- I needed to do a little greenstuff work on both Rex(es?) arms, the Druid's head, and the ANGRY BEAR!'s jaw. (all plastic from the box)
- Druid, Barbarian, one of the mages, Dragon, and Rex(Kobold Ogre) are only in plastic and in the box.
- Chests in the plastic box need to have the bottoms filed down due to shrinkage from the mold (they're solid plastic) while as the plastic ones that come with the metal figures come pre-filed.

In short, you just may want to look at the amount of work you want to put into the mini and then purchase based off that, but if you plan on playing the game, I can't imagine NOT buying the box due to it being such a good value.
 
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count zero99uk

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Thanks for that Bloodshovel, thats just what im after. Im after the game so i WILL be buying the box. Just moneys tight so i only wanted to get the metal minis that would have been unique.

How is the game itself?
 

Bloodshovel

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The game is good. By good, I mean GOOD, on that level that my wife wants to regularly play and paint minis. She's a non-gamer (or at least a gamer that's not very good at games) and it was easy enough for her to follow, understand, and even get kind of good at, yet it can be tactically challenging for both sides depending on the players' skill levels involved.

I guess I'll start with the bad stuff... the rules are missing a few clarifications or examples, but easy enough to "common sense" your way through until Sodapop gets an official FAQ up.(which should be soon, because people were complaining about a lack of assembly instructions and they were on Cmon yesterday :D ) I honestly haven't played the game enough to have things like that regularly come up though. Aside from that, I could see the game getting stale after a bit in that way that all stand alone boardgames do since your only given so many options with the pieces you have, but we've already seen some concept sketches on beastsofwar.com for things that haven't been released yet that should be coming down the pipe soon to keep the game fresh.

A simple run-down of rules is this...
- game uses 3 types of custom dice. ranging form little hits, to lots of hits on die faces. Attacker rolls attack dice, defender rolls armor dice, if attacker's hits exceed defender's hits the defender takes wounds equal to the difference.
- all the dice have either a heart, a potion, or a heart+potion face on them. if these are rolled and you still manage to score a wound on the monster, the hero gets health , a potion, or both. Consul player counts these as blank faces.
- Consul player can spawn 4 points of minions from every spawner every tun. He can only activate 4 points of minions total every turn, where as all the heroes go every turn. (otherwise heroes get massively outnumbered quick)
- the game uses an "adventure tracker" board, which mostly just counts wounds inflicted by both sides and awards treasure to heroes and mini-bosses/bosses to the consul player to keep the game moving and stop one side form just building up to take advantage of the other.
- potions are a resource for effects other than just healing.

Throw that all on top of about 8 or 9 types of special attacks detailed either on the hero/minion's card or in the rulebook if it's an AOE, and you pretty much have the whole game.Most AOEs have a shape that they effect on the board which is the only reason I bring it up.
 
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Gannon

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Hi Brian,
I picked up the metals a while back and they are a pleasure to paint. The only issue you will have now is actually finding the mini's. Unless you have a local game store with them in stock, they've been pretty much taken off the market. SPM took them off their website for purchase about a month and a half ago. I'd recommend saving your money and getting the box.

Put that money you saved towards some Relic Knights stuff instead! From what I've heard, you should be able to purchase the C&C LE model for a short time off their webstore very soon. I'm assuming it will be for their re-launch of the website. Keep an eye out, and happy hunting!
 

tomusannonymous

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When I first saw the SDE minis (before they announced the box set) I couldn't afford to get all the ones I wanted by buying them seperately cuz there was just so many sculpts I liked. The boxed set has 55 minis in it, including all the ones I wanted AND a whole other army with dragons and big orgres. so yeah I think it's awesome value for money for only 100 bucks. Can't wait til my preorder gets here, should be this week (I'm in Aus.)
 

Mallows

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I guess I should of kept those metal models to sell them now:p
I bought a few of the metal SDE because I thought they were super cute... I was extremely disappointed with the quality and just couldn't bring myself to paint them. The details were just all blurred together, especially on the faces. So don't worry you are not missing much!
Glad to hear they have improved the quality of their plastics. I may just have to buy the box...
Mallows
 

count zero99uk

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Christmas came, super dungeon explore arrived :) ive been putting them together, the detail is great, on the plastics, decided to buy Puppet Wars instead of the metal.

Monsters were good to put together, but the heroes seem a bit more fiddley.

Anyway its looking good and im looking forward to playing with it.

On that note, ill get some stuff posted, but im not a super painter i like to do my best, but i paint to play :).
 

Gannon

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If you can find them, investing in some of the heroes may be worthwile, you can run multiple heroes in the same game.

It's a great game!
 
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