"Spoon Fed" Stretch Goals

[Mobius187]

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I would like it if Guillotine Games actually posted a series of stretch goals (say 3-4) rather than posting them just one at a time. That way we could at least get an idea what we can expect, especially closer to the end of the Kickstarter when the fence sitters finally step in to pledge.

 

[Irall]

Honestly, I think they might show the streach in advence if poeple stop giving money at a regular rate.Each day, they reach at 1-2 streach goal. Also,since the Zombivore version of Survivor are streach goal,they could be taking thier time to make original and fun character too.

 

[Mobius187]

Honestly, I think they might show the streach in advence if poeple stop giving money at a regular rate.

I'm not sure if people will ever "stop", but right now it's certainly slowed down. Of course they could speed things back up (temporarily) by releasing a new optional survivor, as everyone interested in the new miniature will up their pledges by $10. I can't really comment on the distance between stretch gaols (i. $40K), that's their call, but I just would like to see a bigger picture of what we can expect down the road. It would certainly help inspire me since I already spend enough time each day checking on the current total.

Each day, they reach at 1-2 streach goal.

Well that will slow down soon, especially if each goal is $40K apart. Unless, as I noted above, they give existing pledgers something new to buy.

Also,since the Zombivore version of Survivor are streach goal,they could be taking thier time to make original and fun character too.

I don't know... I would have assumed they had already created every optional survivor in advance of the Kickstarter and are now just releasing them as we go. Then again, I have no proof to the contrary either.

 

[Niranth]

Of course they could speed things back up (temporarily) by releasing a new optional survivor

I would hate to see my the bill if there were 20 optional survivors!

 

[Irall]

Agreed. I think they should make a streach goal that give all the previus optional survivor....At the very least the Chuck Noris one!

 

[Mobius187]

I would hate to see my the bill if there were 20 optional survivors!

True. Although I cannot imagine they would ever release that many, after all, they need to consider future sales too. I recently looked back at Sedition Wars and couldn't help but feel the optional add-on miniatures they included were very suited to the genre. At times I wonder if such is always the case with Zombicide (I'm thinking about the Jessica Fletcher/Angela Lansbury miniature in particular). On the flip side I really liked that they included Shaun... and was kind of surprised that he wasn't in the first Kickstarter (seemed like a natural).

Oh well. Right now I'm just sitting here and watching the total rise with agonizing slowness towards the next stretch goal... :S

 

[DrZombie]

Well, they just put up three for ya. Nice to have an action star that's not from the 80s.

 

[Mobius187]

Ah, it's good to finally see three new stretch goals appear at once, even if they stretch from beyond $890K all the way to $1 million. Also, Tallahassee... and free (if we can reach a million dollars).

 

[yazza]

all the previous survivors were that kickstarter only, like these ones are for this one. an extra stretchgoal for those... i dont see it coming.

 

[Mobius187]

make a streach goal that give all the previus optional survivor....At the very least the Chuck Noris one!

Well GG has officially stated they will never re-release the stretch or optional survivors from the previous Kickstarter campaign, as they were exclusive to those people who pledged back then. I was among them, but I didn't opt for any of the optional survivors, however I will eventually get "Eagle" (aka, Chuck Norris).

 

[Mobius187]

I woke up today and checked Kickstarter to see the games that were listed, and I see slowly, but surely, that Zombicide keeps dropping down the list and away from the public eye. I'm not sure, but I think the position of the games, with the ones at the top being the most desired, is indicative of the amount of money they earn over a period of time, not their grand total. As such, since Zombicide's pledges have started to slow down other (i.e. newer) games have pushed it farther and farther down the list. The exception to this is Machine of Death.

Machine of Death has managed to stay pretty much near the top for its entire Kickstarter campaign, and I think teh reason is simple, they're running a very exciting campaign. At one point I considered pledging for their game, but changed my mind when I realized that with only 2 players playing Machine of Death between us wouldn't be that fun. Even so I hate it, because their campaign really keeps on piling on all these goodies!

Now I'm sure the common argument here is, "Well yeah, they can do that because all they're giving out is free cards, Zombicide is giving away miniatures". But that's just it, we've had $20-40K stretch goals for 1-4 miniatures, which is fine, but we don't need stretch goals to be miniatures. Do I need another Abomination? Hell no. But what about cards? I really think it would be great if GG considered adding free new cards to the games as stretch goals.

As I've expressed in other threads/posts, miniatures should come with a unique card. An easy example would be "Ralph" (i.e. Tallahassee) should come with the item card "Twinkie" (or fearing copywrite laws, "Snack Food"... and just make it look like a Twinkie). If GG did something like this, which would be unexpected, I would know it wasn't planned as always being a part of their campaign and the bonus cards wouldn't take up as much room in the box. They could start with free cards for the optional purchase survivors, then set another stretch goal for the free promos survivors, then finally move to the survivors who come with each box set.

Anyway, that's my thought on the matter. I truly miss the first 1-2 days of the Kickstarter campaign when stretch goals and "freebies" were coming our way at break neck speeds, and while I can understand that GG can't give away tons of miniatures they do have other options that can be just as rewarding to players.

 

[Mobius187]

Bonus card added to latest optional survivor? Well I'm certainly glad to see it finally happening. Pity every optional survivor doesn't get an ultra-red card...

 

[DrZombie]

The cards are less good for me, as I'm getting the boxes.

 

[Mobius187]

The cards are less good for me, as I'm getting the boxes.

I take it by that you're referring to the various Box of Zombies sets? Actually I was referring to the idea of adding unique equipment cards to optional/free survivors, as an added bonus. The new optional survivor, Will (i.e. Wolowitz), will be coming with the ultra-red weapon card, a rocket launcher.

The zombie spawn cards, from the BoZ sets works for me as I didn't plan to buy any of them, however I can see how it wouldn't be a real "prize" for you if you are buying them already.

 

[Mobius187]

So, once again we have huge stretch goals, which in and of itself isn't that surprising. Personally I still wish we had better stretch goals. I mean, if all goes as planned (and it will) at the end of the day I'll have 4 Abominations (2x Z:S1 / 2x PO:S2), 2 Toxic Abominations (TCM), and 2 Berserker Abominations. That's 8 Abominations... and I have to say when 2 appear during a missions we're usually FUBAR'd. I can only imagine what adding 8 would do to us.

People have been asking for other stretch goals which I felt were far more reasonable, such as new equipment cards, new vehicles, new counters, and maybe a new tile or two. I for one would LOVE it it they upgraded us from 2D barricade tiles to full-on miniature versions. Yes, I'm thinking about ZApocalypse when I came up with this idea, but it's not that crazy and they wouldn't need that many (and if we used more than what they provided, well, then we would still have the 2D versions as stand-ins).

Also, I find it sort of disappointing that "Will" (aka, Wolowitz) came with an ultra-red card (which was great!), but then none of the new survivors followed that trend. Okay fine, if they didn't want to offer one for "Gary" because he'll be free, I'm cool with that in a way, but "Ross" costs $10... why is he any different than "Will"? I would have liked it if Ross had come with his own ultra-red card... something like a Molotov Bowling Ball (a "range 2" version of the Molotov, for a crazy example) or just his trademark M1911A1 (thanks Google... I owe you one). Anyway, I have no idea what the game plan was for this decision.

Will any of this impact what I intend to purchase...? Sadly no, so I can see why GG may not feel they need to change their plans. Still, I wanted to be more excited about strech goals, but as it stands right now it's become very *yawn*. I guess I'll check Kickstarter every few days instead of hourly because odds are we won't be hitting "daily" stretch goals anymore. Ah well.

 

[Havolice]

i found the new goals a little meh to but o wel ill be backing as soon as my neteller prepaid credit card get validated :<

 

[Mobius187]

i found the new goals a little meh to but o wel ill be backing as soon as my neteller prepaid credit card get validated :<

It's like I want to make them think they won't get my money... in protest... but yeah, I'm gonna buy the game at Inmate level and some optionals (if not all of them) so I have no real positioning power at all. It's a sad fact, but one I just have to get over. Still, I recently listened to a podcast for the Reaper "Bones" Kickstarter and you get the feeling they had a blast every single day of the campaign. It's a shame the Zombicide campaign lost its "electric" appeal barely 2-3 days after... and in recent days it's just become a slog of "one more Abomination", new survivors, stuff we should give you anyway. I would like to see something that shows to me that they were making an effort to add something beyond the norm. A new map tile, for example, would do that. I would kinda be shocked in fact. Or more item cards... or better... unique ones to go with the free/optional survivors being offered (i.e. just like for "Will").

Anyway, like I said, I enjoy the game and I'll buy it along with the optional survivors... but I would have liked to have spent te next two weeks enjoying a thrill ride of a Kickstarter campaign, and it just seem like that will be the case.

 

[Havolice]

It's like I want to make them think they won't get my money... in protest... but yeah, I'm gonna buy the game at Inmate level and some optionals (if not all of them) so I have no real positioning power at all. It's a sad fact, but one I just have to get over. Still, I recently listened to a podcast for the Reaper "Bones" Kickstarter and you get the feeling they had a blast every single day of the campaign. It's a shame the Zombicide campaign lost its "electric" appeal barely 2-3 days after... and in recent days it's just become a slog of "one more Abomination", new survivors, stuff we should give you anyway. I would like to see something that shows to me that they were making an effort to add something beyond the norm. A new map tile, for example, would do that. I would kinda be shocked in fact. Or more item cards... or better... unique ones to go with the free/optional survivors being offered (i.e. just like for "Will").

Anyway, like I said, I enjoy the game and I'll buy it along with the optional survivors... but I would have liked to have spent te next two weeks enjoying a thrill ride of a Kickstarter campaign, and it just seem like that will be the case.

mayby they will add some more ompf after these goals i hope , so far im getting the raise the dead one and 1 extra set of mall tiles and al the survivors i gues cause there exlusive ><. then again im totaly new to kick starter and havent been on any thrill rides in here

 

[Mobius187]

mayby they will add some more ompf after these goals i hope

It doesn't hurt to hope...

so far im getting the raise the dead one and 1 extra set of mall tiles and al the survivors i gues cause there exlusive ><.

I considered buying additional Mall tiles, just to make it the full mall experience (i.e. both sides), but then I realized that I'll probably end up just playing the missions GG provides or that other players create, which use only base sets for the tiles. Of course if you plan to create original maps, then I agree doubling up on the Mall tiles is the best way to go. In fact, doubling the Prison Outbreak tiles would be something to consider as well for the same reason.

then again im totaly new to kick starter and havent been on any thrill rides in here

Well I remember it being more fun during my first Kickstarter, probably just because it was my first one. So, don't let my glum talk spoil it for you. Just have fun and chat with other veteran players on the Kickstarter chat (which you can do once you've pledged). I'm not sure how often GG reads these threads, but I gather they do read the Kickstarter posts.

 

[Havolice]

oh dont worry its not spoiling it and on the tiles yes i was thinking about making a game involving a few more survivors starting or in the prison or in the Streets *malls* and they have to find eachother some how could be a nice idea for a big map