Something about Gubbinz

XeeN

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I desided to start Goblins army, parallel with my Griffons. But I have a problem - basic Gobbo warriors(exept bow users) look... not right to me.
So, I wanna to bye a box of GW Gobbo(I hate to do it... but it\'s a last resort) and convert them completely.
Bases look the same...

Can I do it and use them in games (by rules)?

Could someone gimmie Goblin \"what does what\" list ?
:idea:
plz.
 

Chrispy

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Thing is with Confrontation, is you need to use the card for the rules. And to do that you\'d either have to a) buy the mini, II) buy the card, or 3) go on Rackscan.net and print it out. I don\'t see any rules that say you can\'t, but then I think it would be unfair that GW makes you use theirs and Rackham can use any...
 

Wolfsbane21

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WHY? :eek:
I mean the goblins of Rackham are much better than the ones by GW (I should know I play orcs and gobbo\'s and their anatomy sux.:(
as for gobbo\'s in Rackham, what don\'t you like????
 
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Carolus

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Well, just remember that a single card can only represent as many models as there are in the bilster; so if you have a blister of 3 Goblin Archers, they can be represented by 1 card; if you want to field 10 Goblin Archers, you will need at least 4 cards (3+3+3+1), but you can go up to 10... (1 card per mini)

But just as Wolfsbane asked : What is it you don\'t like about the Conf Goblins? I find the pirate boxed set extremely nice, and the personalities are pretty cool too...

But hey, it\'s each one\'s tastes...
 

barkel

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goblins

I\'m sorry I do not have the answers for you in regard to rules and such. But, as moral support I will tell you that I also do not like the Confrontation Goblins. The archers are ok. They have some character. And some of the Pirates are alright. I actually like the pirate with the musket in the wagon a good little bit. But none of them really fit my view of what a goblin is.

I find it hard to explain. These goblins seem to fit all the qualifications of what I like, they are small, toothy and mean looking. But something about them goes too far. They are vicious looking. I think of goblins as being much like people, except that they are deminutive, green, wirey, and ineffectual as individuals. Kind of like children (except the green part). So, I guess I see goblins as having a kind of human-ish quality to them. These goblins look too much like monsters.

I know I will aggrivate a good many people, but the best goblins I have found, hands down, bar none, are GW goblins. Especially the archived ones. They have loads of character. They look mean, while still looking somewhat cute. And no matter how much armor you throw on them they still look like a 5 year old playing war.

barkel

ps. That said, I have high hopes for the Celtos line of Fomorians. What I have seen of their orcs and goblins so far look very nice.
 

XeeN

New member
OK, explanion!

I agree with barkel.
As far as I can see in catalogue there are two different designers(concept art designers, not sculptors-- they ROCK)) for gobbo in Rackham; they see gobbo in COMLETELY DIFFERENT ways(saying it like an art student).

Examples of \"good\" (IMHO) design - Sea Clan Box (all of them), ball and chainers 4,5,6 etc.
\"Bad\" (again, IMHO)- all spear... men, Strohm warriors, Bodyguards (Bodyguards ARE TERRIBLE ! ) etc.
As you can see designs are different, and so the opinions on Gobbos...

So? :flip:
 

Tuubje

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Rackham is bringing out new basic goblins in july, with customizable weapons (mace, sword, axe). Maybe worth the wait?


GBRG07_1.jpg
 

XeeN

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8^O

\"That\'s the way I like it !!!\"
This IS a good news !!!


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\"For the Emperor... uhmmm... ehhh.... you know...\"
--Gobbinz warcry.
 

el pimpo

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Originally posted by Carolus
Well, just remember that a single card can only represent as many models as there are in the bilster; so if you have a blister of 3 Goblin Archers, they can be represented by 1 card; if you want to field 10 Goblin Archers, you will need at least 4 cards (3+3+3+1), but you can go up to 10... (1 card per mini)

Where does it say that in the rules? I activate all warriors of the same kind with a single card. Heck I even take one profile for all my three wulfen predators and activate them with a single card. I don\'t think there is anything in the rules that doesn\'t allow this option.

Besides I find it\'s quite cumbersome to activate different \"squads\" with their own card. It would require some marking of both mini\'s and cards...
 

Corvus

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So you\'re saying that you have only one card in your set for these three wolfen? And that they are activated at the same time?
 

finn17

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Hard to put your finger on...but...

I agree with the comments about Rackham Goblins, and I think the same thing applies, although to a lesser extent, to their Orcs. In as far as I can put my finger on it, the sense of humour is lacking. Having been bought up on old-style GW gobbos, they are funny/pathetic little creatures who only pose a threat in huge numbers or when accompanied by some big allies. The GW fluff for the Orcs is also steeped in humour. I don\'t know what the Rackham fluff is like but there is nothing funny at all about their Orcs and Goblins. They\'re mean b*ggers!lol

I think this is what puts me off ever so slightly, that and the fact that I can\'t stop drooling over wolfen and devourers. Hooowwwlll!
 

Tuubje

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Originally posted by finn17
The GW fluff for the Orcs is also steeped in humour. I don\'t know what the Rackham fluff is like but there is nothing funny at all about their Orcs and Goblins. They\'re mean b*ggers!lol

I think this is what puts me off ever so slightly, that and the fact that I can\'t stop drooling over wolfen and devourers. Hooowwwlll!

That\'s actually exactly the fact why I like \'em :)
 

XeeN

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Why ? Conf. fluff is good!

Gobba fluff is very nice :
\"People of Aarklash believe the Gobbo want to conquer theworld. For Gubbinz , it is already done!
Wherever u go, they will be there before u. \"
And much-much more...

About Orcs... I agree with finn. :duh:
 
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Carolus

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@El Pimpo:
Actually, I thought that rule can be found somewhere in the rulebook (but you have to take the English Rulebook or the French one of December 2002 as they are the most recent versions)... I don\'t have the rulebook handy but I\'ll try and look it up...

Personally, I would call this \'a house rule\', because I don\'t mind if you represent 10 minis by one card or not... Just remember that there is a nice spell that the goblins have which allows them to draw a card among the cards of the opposing player and immobilze all minis represented by that card for the following turn... ;)

I think the rule was defined in the earlier versions (because I often represented my 6 Fiannas with 1 card) but this may have been replaced after \'tournament experience\'... In early 200-300 points tournaments, the Kelts often one because armies were fielded consisting completely of the \'base troops\' which are cheap, have high INI and Furie Guerriere/War Cry.... So I believe that\'s why they invented that \'1 card represents maximum blister content\' so that one was forced to activate and move units, instead of activating everyone at once and basically overwhelwing everyone, and a second \'tournament\' rule (which I personally don\'t like) was made that during tournaments you are only allowed to field the units you have different cards of... Which means for example that you can only have a maximum of 6 Griffon Spearman/Lanciers as there are only 2 blisters and therefore 2 different cards...

I would definitely like to make a 200 point army consisting of 10 executeurs (@20 pts each) to see how they fare :D

But like the rules say in the beginning : all rules are optional; just see that you are clear which ones you like and which ones you don\'t with your player group...

Carolus
 

VLRM

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Carolus, El Pimpo:

The bit about a single card representing up to the number of minis in that blister is official. I cannot recall exactly where it is, but I suppose it must be in the (official) FAQ. Using a single card to activate 3 devourers, 6 fiannas or 10 goblin archers is simply wrong...
 

barkel

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curious about the ladies

I don\'t play Confrontation so I don\'t really know anything about the fluff. Are there lady goblins or do they multiply by other means?

barkel
 

XeeN

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Ahem...

Lady Gobbin ?!
As far as I can recall, Babayagob is femme gobbo-witch.
Not sure... :wow:
 
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