Setting up white balance on the camera

Bacms

New member
Hey guys,

I have built a home made made light box for photography and have been playing with it for a while. My doubt at the moment is how to manually adjust the white balance on my camera. I am using a, now old, panasonic dmc tz40 but all the automatic adjustments of white give me colour distortions. There is however an option to set it manually which gives the option to take a picture of what I assume is something that is supposed to be white. My question is what is the best thing to use for this? Would just a blank white paper be enough? Or just a be using some kind of white printed reference?
 

Zab

Almost Perftec! Aw, crap.
white paper is fine also white poster board or a white piece of fabric like a tee shirt. The main thing to do is to make sure you set that source of white in the area where you will be taking the pic of the mini and set your white balance there so that the lighting being used is the same and the white reads as white. If you se the white balance some where else with different lighting when you take your pics they will look off because every light has a different color to it.
 

Bacms

New member
Perfect. Thank you very much. I am aware it changes according to the light. Just wasn't sure how "pure" the white needed to be.
 

Vrox

New member
Zab is correct, the other issue you might want to look at is the type of light you are using. If your mixing fluorescent and LEDs or Incandescent you might get weird results. White Balancing should handle this but if it doesn't give you the true color your looking for, check to make sure your type of light is matching.
 

dispake

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White balancing is actually looking for 18% grey (aka middle grey). Something like the grey card here http://goo.gl/DxmM1R would work perfectly. However, white is usually close enough.

Really don't know why they decided to call it 'white' balance when it probably should have been called 'grey' balance.
 

heavybolterbob

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Actually, white balance is adjusting the camera based on the color temperature (in degrees Kelvin) of the light that is illuminating the scene being photographed. I don't remember all of the color temperatures from my film photography days, but daylight is a certain temperature. Incandescent light is a different temperature, as is florescent, halogen, etc. Films were designed for use with a particular color of light. Usually daylight. To avoid off color in the final image (without lots of color correcting in the printing process) you needed to use filtration to adjust the color of the light hitting the film. Custom white balance is creating a custom "filter" to correct the color of the image you capture based on the color of your light as it strikes something you are telling the camera is pure white. If it is not a pure white you will end up with a mess.

To easily see how adjusting your camera's white balance setting affects your photos try the following. Go outside and during the daytime (we don't want the flash going off and altering things) and take a picture with your camera on auto white balance which is where most are usually set. Then take another photo of the same scene with the camera set to "daylight." Then another with the camera set to "partly cloudy." Take one photo for each white balance setting your camera has. When you run out of white balance settings, you're done taking photos. Go back inside, and review the photos just on the LCD screen your camera is equipped with...unless you feel like viewing them on your computer. You will easily see how the different settings change the color of your photos. The auto white balance setting will often even give you different colors from one shot to the next because it reads the scene each time you take a photo and often "sees" it differently each time, even if only slightly. You can try this test too using the above method and taking multiple photos of the same scene using auto white balance. The differences won't be as drastic, but they will be there.

The 18% grey is another matter entirely, and actually goes back to early days of photography and calibrating light meters. Most light meters average a scene to determine the exposure that will be used to get a "good" photo. Since the vast majority of photos that were taken "back in the day" were portraits, light meters were calibrated to try to get good exposures of people. In a properly exposed black and white negative, Caucasian skin is very close to 18% grey. So is nice green grass or foliage interestingly enough. This is the "norm" that light meters strive for. For years, a trick photographers used to quickly get a correct exposure for a given scene was to meter off of their hand, or meter the lawn next to their subject. I did this literally thousands of times to get the correct exposure. If a scene has too much light or dark by comparison, then your photo ends up over or under exposed because the light meter is averaging the scene. Now, in the new digital cameras, the algorithms they have used within the computer controlled light meters (many with face recognition now) are so sophisticated that they have largely eliminated this problem. Usually a small adjustment with your camera's exposure compensation setting will have you dialed in to the correct exposure if any adjustment is needed at all.

Sorry to be long winded. In a nutshell, white balance is adjusting perceived color temperature (correcting color), and a grey card is used to get a correct exposure (largely unnecessary with modern digital cameras).
 
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dispake

New member
I guess I kind of meshed a couple of topics together incorrectly... white balancing is, as Bob said, a matter of color temperature. Whereas middle grey is more about exposure. However, I would say that with digital, it combines the two in a sense.

If your camera has a custom white balance feature, try the following.

1. Use a white color for your custom white balance. Sheet of paper or something.
2. Take a picture of something with a variety of color with your new WB setting.
3. Use a grey color for your custom white balance (preferably something 18% but close enough should do) and repeat what you did in step 1.
4. Take a picture of the same thing in step 2.

Couple things you should notice:
- When you setting your WB in step 1 and filled the whole screen with your white object, the white became grey. Why? b/c the camera exposes based on middle grey as mentioned previously.
- The difference between the pictures in 2 and 4 is that 2 might be a bit warmer.

Ironic how digital has made photography 'easier' while yet, making it more complicated :)
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Make life easier on yourself, buy a colour wheel, photograph it under all conditions, that way you have a set 'point if reference' to work with.
Once in your editing tool of choice you have better control.
 
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