Scale 75 paints

[shaun5603]

I was looking at picking up a new set or two of paints, I really like there black and white line up for my death company.

However it's tough to find reviews on them most are vague at best, and was looking to see if any on here has spent time with them. I have been painting for awhile so wouldn't call my self a beginner, my skills aren't above table top level either. Normally use wide selection of paints and brushes. However I want to build more display army so looking to push my self and expand as painter.

Also I plan on using regular brushes and not airbrush haven't made that purchase yet.

 

[MAXXxxx]

Well they are great, but more suited for display painting than tabletop. They cover relatively well, but the paint is a bit fragile until fully cured.
On the good side:
- super colors in the sets
- their coverage is about good
- they blend really well
- can be Airbrushed without much hassle

the bad:
- fragile
- coverage... well you need 3-4 layers for a solid base, but normally for display it's not a bad thing. For TT yes
- they taste horrible

edit:

totally forgot: to see how they behave just have a look at the scale75 channel on youtube.
There is quite a few videos on using them (leather, wood, goldnmm, steelnmm, black-and-white, even some other figures)

 

[shaun5603]

Thank's for the quick replay.

In terms of fragile they chip when moved about the table, or finger prints ruin the look of model?
Layering is something i was unsure about having to build up in layers I don't have much exspearnice with. As far doing it for all army I plan on using, I all ready made that sacrifice in my head. Doing one model at time and completing sq before buying the next one. ( I have 2 armies build and painted for playing) I want this to better painted one and not rushed,

The airbrush they adversities on there site is also for sale on this site. Is that a good airbrush? I would like to branch out start using one.

last question as far as blending goes is wet blending a must? Or due the work over top of each other just progression the color lighter and lighter.

 

[MAXXxxx]

with fragile I mean, that during painting you shouldn't touch the figure or the paint comes off and you have to fix that part. In a way it's similar to the difference between VAC and VGC. The later made for gaming figures, it has more binder, so it's more resistant to damage.

by layering I mean, that when you apply the first basecoat it won't cover, will be uneven, 2nd one too, probably 3rd also, around 4th will it look like a solid color, so a lot more work than for example GW's base colors, where you need 1 coat of paint for the base, max 2.

AB: no idea, but to be honest unless you do really fine, calligraphy fine work, there is not much difference between the cheapest chinese knockoff and a 200+$ one. I have one Harder-n-steenbeck infinity and a really cheap noname. For basecoats and general lighting, like in the SM videos from Les Bursley (youtube: awesomepaintjob) I see no difference between them. The cheapest one is just as good as the expensive one.
For more detaled work and sometimes for ease of cleaning a more expensive AB is better.

no, it's not a must, wet-lending is good to start things faster anyway, not to use it for everything.
By blending I mean: making a transition between 2 colors. What technique(drybrush, wetblend, layer, glazing, etc etc etc) is used doesn't matter. Simply the color is transparent enough that it helps.


What the best suggestion can be: buy one box (as they are not available individually, or at least I haven't seen any) and try it.
I like them, but because of lack of time I don't paint armies anymore, just individual figures or sometimes small groups (but then those take months to finish, again lack of time).

 

[shaun5603]

Thanks for clearing that up,

Make's sense with airbrushes going to do more research on brands and types of guns.

On there web site they sell them individually, but I think we shipping cost I am better off picking up a set on eBay, and starting out,

thanks again for help

 

[Wigdog]

Just to throw in about acrylic paints for the brush. I use Vallejo, Reaper, Andrea, Games Workshop, and Scale 75. For the most part I use the Reapers and Vallejo's. Reapers to me have the best consistency that I like to use and water down easily when needed but I do love the Andrea and Scale 75 sets for their colors. For airbrush I like Garage Kits paints but have others as well.

 

[shaun5603]

Yeah reappear paints are nice, I use few on my ogrekingdom army, main the bloodless skin color, great skin tone and works well with different shades inks glazes wash ect.

i have seen some work with Andrea paints look really nice too.

The colors and depth of color range of scale 75 drew me to them. Now once my set arrives I can start learning how to paint with them.
i going to look at those paints for airbrush. Still in the research phase for airbrushing watch videos and look at how people use them, getting pros and cons down before I try it

do Andrea and scale 75 paints have any issue with primers? I have few cans of GW black and white left, so would like to use those until the run out, I just don't want there be issue with different primers and paints,

and for weathering powers, I tent to use them for added depth, would they react negatively to scale paints?

 

[czebas]

I have all of their sets except the black and white. I can say that they dry slowly. This characteristic is a good thing because I find they are much easier to blend because you have that extra minute or two to work with them. I find their coverage to be excellent. On the level of a citadel foundation, reaper HD or vallejo model color paint. I have used them in an airbrush with vallejo's airbrush thinner and they go on very smooth.

they also don't really separate bad on a wet palette if you use one in your work.

Probably some of the best I've seen. I have no complaints other than the high cost of their paints. Which I think are now in the 30-35 dollar range for 8. Which works out to about 4 bucks a bottle on average.

You can spend 500 bucks on an airbrush but really you probably only need one in the 100-150 dollar range. I bought an iwata custom micron and I find that its about the same as most of my other airbrushes for this type of work. Maybe that is an indictment of my skill level. I still liked my first airbrush a paasche talon which I think you can get on amazon for not too much. I recommend iwatas though because their auxilliary equipment like their quick disconnects and air hoses are of a higher quality than badger for example.

they also have much harder needles and nozzles which last longer than badger and I hear H&S have really soft needles/nozzles as well. I bought two badger quick disconnnects and no amount of teflon tape, beeswax or chapstick could stop them from leaking like sieves and i've gone through a bunch of needles and tips on my badger, YMMV.

 

[shaun5603]

Thanks for tips on airbrushes,

the cost for there paint is high, but as long as quality of paint matches I don't mine shelling out few extra on paint.

I have not tried a wet palette yet, really don't understand the concept of it.

I order my paints from a website basic in the states to save on int shipping fees as order from there site would have been 44€ which is a lot.

Still doing home work on airbrushes