Resurrect GW paints

Dekulus

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I have some gw paints that have started to dry out after a break from painting. Would it be a good idea to buy acrylic thinners and try and resurrect them. In future ill buy some some squeeze bottles and keep the paint in there. I like the bottles as you use want you need.
 
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Garshnak

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You'll be better off with acrylic medium rather then acrylic thinners. In my experience I can still get some nice amount of paint out of a semi-dry pot with some acrylic medium. It won't be the 100% same quality as new though, that's something you'll have to accept...but it's still good enough for glazes, washes and mixing.
 

Garshnak

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Aren't thinners just acrylic medium?

Hmmm. Good point. Not all of them?

I've got to be honest here and admit I've never used miniature 'thinning mediums'.
Though saying it like that, yeah.

But my Winsor & Newton Galeria Matt Medium does work very nicely anyway. Though I don't know a direct price comparison.
 

me_in_japan

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I've used Vallejo matt medium and a dab of water to resurrect GW paints that have gone a bit stodgy. Seems to have worked, so far.
 

Garshnak

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Oh wait, could it just be that thinner is only a pigment solvent-binder agent? While mediums usually also contain other things that aid the flow and extend the use of the paint. Also, you can use matt medium, not sure if there's such a thing as 'matt thinner', resulting in your paint becoming glossier.

Most mediums are just your standard paint I believe, without pigment. Thinner was less than that, I think.

It's been a while since I've looked into the chemical composition of paint...
 

KruleBear

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I had some 20 year old mithril silver that was 90% dry. I just added some Liquitex matte fluid medium for acrylic paints. It seemed to bring the paint back to a normal usable level. Of course i am a cheapskate and not a top level painter (yet ).
 

Kalidane

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I have some gw paints that have started to dry out after a break from painting. Would it be a good idea to buy acrylic thinners and try and resurrect them. In future ill buy some some squeeze bottles and keep the paint in there. I like the bottles as you use want you need.

Are acrylic thinners a thing? Extender is fine as Garshnak mentioned.

It depends a lot on how far the paint has gone. If it's just a bit gloopy then it is probably fine. If it feels stodgy and is really hard to stir then it could be the binder has started working its magic - picture a few little bits of pigment now being one latex thing. That isn't going to be useful for anything other than basing perhaps.

I must have chucked more than 40 GW paints. Not much fun but it did help me transition to other ranges and I'm happy with that.
 

RuneBrush

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I nearly always do it with pure water - stick in a dozen drops and shake the living daylights out of it. Occasionally they may need a crank with a cocktail stick and possibly more water (it's easier to put water in than take it out) but I've never needed to use any kind of medium. My theory being that it's the water element of the medium that's evaporated rather than the actual chemicals that make it a medium.

The only acrylic thinner I've every used is Tamiya X20A, which is basically isoprop alcohol. It's not the same as a medium though.
 

Dekulus

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I'm going for the water and Tamiya method. I've found the tamiya thinner on eBay but as far as an extender to make the paint take longer to dry, can someone give me a link to eBay perhaps ? I can't seem to find any or there are too many types to choose from. Some give a matt finish but I wouldn't like that for my models. If you do find a link please note I am in the uk. Many thanks
 

Eggmarine

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Hi, I wouldn't use Isopropyl alcohol (acrylic thinners) to resurrect your paints as it will dry out pretty quickly, being fairly volatile. Water seems cool for bringing them back, I have my lucky pot of Warlock Purple that has outlasted empires, it's immortal.

Just add water, that's all that is lost from stodgy paints, adding other stuff will change the attributes.
 

Einion

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Dekulus said:
I'm going for the water and Tamiya method.
Isopropyl alcohol can sometimes be actively bad to add to regular hobby paints of this type, but even if it has no ill effects it might not have any beneficial effect. I wouldn't bother with it myself*.

When paint dries out in the container the secret's in what you just said - the paint has dried out. So what was lost by evaporation? Mostly it's exactly what you'd expect: water.

If you want to go one extra step then you might add a small proportion of ammonia (also lost by evaporation) but IME it's usually not necessary. As long as the process hasn't gone too far you can often get the paint back nearly to how it was when new just using water.

Dekulus said:
...as far as an extender to make the paint take longer to dry, can someone give me a link to eBay perhaps ?
To help looking for and buying the right thing, the additive to slow drying is normally referred to as retarder, not extender.

And I wouldn't bother adding this to the paint unless you're specifically having problems with it drying too quickly (most of which would be helped more by using a stay-wet palette anyway). It's generally better to use a retarder as and when you need it rather than add it directly into a paint pot - if you add too much the whole pot is a loss, whilst if you add too much to a small mix on the palette you can simply add more paint to that one pool of colour.

*If you already had some it would be worth experimenting with but you might not find any other uses for it, so it should hardly be high up on the must-buy list. It's particularly not a good buy in any hobby brand, where you'll be charged through the nose for it...

Einion
 
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