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Frodoz

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ya know, maybe it\'s stupid question but how to achieve realistic look of mini?

what colours to use (dark? broken? faded?)
how to do highlighting and darkering?

etc... etc... bla bla ba...
I\'m seeking any advices. I\'ve got enough of block painting and layering that makes my minis look like toys.

who wanna cookie ? :)

(sorry for my poor engish but still I\'m better than some famous politicians who don\'t know their native language :D )
 
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Wolf_Fang

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depends on the minis really..... i wouldnt really say bright but mid tones slight highlight and a slight darken thats about it for a realistic mini.... use medium ranged colours and highlight them a little and darken them a little but not alot
 
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Tony Manero

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use natural colors... like dark red, green, brown, grey, dark blue and their gradations...

try to use just a little bit of fluo colors and only if it\'s necessary.

if u are going to paint a beast or something search in internet for pics of similar... uhm i\'ll give an example

dragon -----> lizards or dinos
furry beasts -----> lions, pumas or wolves

and so on...

remember that human skin is not one-colored
but has a lot of variation...

the lips, nose ears, belly and feet are generally different from the other skin parts....

don\'t exagerate with contrast, use grey for highlightings instead of white and paint realistic shadows... remember male and female have different shadows point... female\'s face is less pronounced...

sorry for my bad english and i hope u\'ll achieve an ultrarealistical paint :D
 
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Einion

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Originally posted by Frodoz
ya know, maybe it\'s stupid question but how to achieve realistic look of mini?
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First point, realistic sculpting really help as a starting point - there\'s a limit to what you can do with something that\'s quite stylised to begin with so pick your models carefully.

Originally posted by Frodoz
what colours to use (dark? broken? faded?)
how to do highlighting and darkering?
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Sorry that\'s an impossible question to answer as it covers too much ground - depends on the type of miniature, the subject, your own taste and \'style\', the actual paint brand(s) you\'re using etc. So you\'d need to narrow down the request to a specific area of a specific figure and maybe also tell us which paints you have to get really useful feedback.

What do you mean by broken colour by the way?

Originally posted by Frodoz
I\'ve got enough of block painting and layering that makes my minis look like toys.
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Layering is a standard technique and it shouldn\'t be a direct cause of making anything look like a toy.

Einion
 
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Frodoz

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thx all. :)

here\'s example of mini that I\'m repaintig. (Old photo, painted with Humbrols).
But with dark brown instead green and other coour instead grey - black camo.
Now I\'ve got vallejo paints from model color palette.
Layering is a standard technique and it shouldn\'t be a direct cause of making anything look like a toy.
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my mistake. I should say \'typical layering\' or \'simple ayering\'.when you add white or back to base colour.
What do you mean by broken colour by the way?
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don\'t know how to translate correcty (pease be patient :p ) but they are shades of browns, olive greens etc.
 
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jean_genie

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The best advice you can get for \'realism\' is to avoid most of the minis on here as \'inspiration\', and draw said inspiration solely from pictures of real things and people. If you want to do a desert camo marine for instance, do a google search and find desert camo marines.

My other suggestion would be to use shaded metallics, as NMM tends to be a little more stylized, and less realistic. I\'ve also found that shaded metallics best capture the dirty, grimy feel of actual warfare and combat.
 
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Frodoz

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My god it\'s \"My god, it\'s son of RLobinske! quote\"

Third time this night. I\'m so lucky.
:)
???
who\'s RLobinske?
 
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Spacemunkie

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He was just a poster who was obsessed by painting \'realistic\' minis. He railed against highlighting and basically anything that made a miniature look good, in order to make it look \'realistic\'.

It was basically an excuse for his piss-poor painting!

Jean-Genie\'s post had a similar feel, that\'s all:)

Personally, I find minis to be inch-high works of fantasy that have little or nothing to do with realism. They work best when exaggerated. Doesn\'t mean you can\'t use natural colours and weathering to make them grimy. :D
 
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sebrushworth

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What do you mean by realistic? Do you mean realistic colours? In that case you might prefer to use Vallejo Model Colour, which is less saturated than the fantasy paint lines. Otherwise you can try mixing some brown/grey in to your paints to make them less saturated and more \"realistic\".

As for the other thing, miniatures need an \"unrealistic\" level of contrast to look good, so going for a too \"realistic\" look in that regard will only make them less interesting.
 
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Frodoz

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for me realistic minis are (for exape) Yelow One\'s Alternative events - WWII
(except NMM). (I know there\'s a ot of practise & precision that I may achieve in 200 years :p)

Spacemunkie -> I\'m only daydreaming sometimes very strong. Nothing wrong with me, right? RIGHT? :)
 
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Ritual

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I like to think of my painting style as somewhat \'realistic\' although not in the sense that Mr. RLobinske professed. I have a huge selection of brown and grey paints in different tones. Vallejo\'s Model Color range has a very nice selection. Instead of using white for highlights I use a light grey or light beige, and instead of black for shadows I use dark brown or dark grey. I also mix brown into bright colours like red to make them harmonise more with the muted colours I use. I often mix medium grey into colours as well if I want them less bright. Sometimes though, it can be a nice effect to have some bright areas to offset the muted ones.

But, generally, mix brown or grey into your colours if you want more muted, earthy tones, and do not use white for highlights.

Look at my gallery if you want. If you have more specific questions about something I\'m happy to answer them! :)
 
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Spacemunkie

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Yellow One is an excellent example.

Check out his article in the first Darksons Designs guide if you haven\'t already Frodoz. It\'s excellent and gives great tips on creating believable tones and surface textures.

:)
 
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Ritual

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Originally posted by sebrushworth
Originally posted by Ritual

But, generally, mix brown or grey into your colours if you want more muted, earthy tones.
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Anders, that\'s what I said! ;)
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Sorry! I guess I didn\'t bother to read all answers before posting... :innocent:
 
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freakinacage

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Originally posted by Spacemunkie


Jean-Genie\'s post had a similar feel, that\'s all:)
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dude, thats harsh! lobinske was a nutter and he had a huge ego. man i miss those crazy threads. mind you the discuss subissions thread has livend up lately, wouldn\'t you agree?
 
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