Polyglots, your input please

Einion

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I happened across a list of the hardest languages to learn the other day and since we have quite a few members who speak and write proficiently in more than one language I was curious what they thought about this.

So what do you think is the hardest language to learn to speak and to write?

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Farin

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in general?

mandarine chinese. It´s simply to different form the european languages. The meaning of every word depends on how you promnounce it. And on top of that you would have to learn all these symbols. I hope i will never find myself in a situation where i have to learn it.

Personaly, i had to learn french in school and it was utterly frustrating ( and don´t ask about my grades ). Seriously a language should NOT have a tense that it is only meant for historical texts. Looking back, that was the day i said "screw it" and focused on english. This way i am at least able to watch amrican and bbritish tv shows without having to suffer through the terrible localisation.
 

BarstoolProphet

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English. It just doesn't make any sense.
Singulars and plurals alone...

Goose. Geese.
Dog. Dogs.
Moose. Moose.

Heck, it even has sentences that can't be written without using phonetics.
(Ignoring spelling rules to do it here, because I don't know how to do phonetic letters)

There are three (too)s in the English language.

Tenses...

Run, ran
throw, threw
walk, walked

We steal words from other languages, butcher the pronunciation, and call them our own.
George W. Bush: "The problem with the French is... they don't have a word for entrepreneur..."

In truth, even native speakers of the language can't get it right.

They're -- They are
Their -- Belonging to them
There -- That location
 

Ritual

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English. It just doesn't make any sense.
In truth, even native speakers of the language can't get it right.
I think this makes it easy to learn English. Because it's simply not that important to get things right... People are used to errors like the ones you've pointed out, especially as many make them themselves.

I don't know any language that I find extremely difficult, but a guy at work some years ago knows a couple of Slavic languages, and they seemed pretty difficult to me.
 

IdofEntity

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Cantonese, with Mandarin a close second.

Russian is considered a pain, and my Danish friend swears that Polski was a bear to learn.
 

Roger Bunting

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I'd imagine a language where the sounds are not used in your own, something like one of those languages in Africa (I forget which language or country) that uses the clicking sound, would be tricky.
 

Chrome

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A lot of people I've talked to say that Swedish is among the hardest to learn, though most of those have been slavic... I did try to learn "modern" Norse and some Icelandic a few years ago. dropped it quite quickly. Amusing language there though, in the beginning it kinda feels like you're just standing there saying "Hur, hur, hur, haf."
 

Einion

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Ta for the input so far folks.

Glad to see some early votes for Mandarin and Cantonese, because apart from the difficulty in pronouncing some of the word sounds for a European the tones can be really difficult to get your ear to hear in the first place, then you have to be able to say them just right every time. Plus of course there's the written side of things, which is just so much work.

English.
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Heck, it even has sentences that can't be written without using phonetics.
(Ignoring spelling rules to do it here, because I don't know how to do phonetic letters)
The irregular spelling is probably the hardest part of English - ghoti spells fish - and all the homonyms, homophones.

Although punctuation is often cited it's not hard, much as it confuses the hell out of most people (down to bad teaching, not it being difficult).

Tenses...

Run, ran
throw, threw
walk, walked
But it's so much worse in some other languages. French for example.

In English we have the benefit of being able to use just one form often:
they ran for the bus;
I ran for the bus;
we ran for the bus;
he/she ran for the bus.

they slung their bags;
I slung my bag;
we slung our bags;
he/she slung their bag.

Also on the plus side no gender, which is a huge boon (there are apparently seven genders in Polish, yikes!)

In truth, even native speakers of the language can't get it right.
That is actually true of other languages too though. Bad spelling, sloppy grammar and punctuation are all apparently rife. We're just more aware of it in English as English speakers.


...my Danish friend swears that Polski was a bear to learn.
That was what topped the list I saw. I was surprised because I hadn't previously heard Polish was especially difficult and Hungarian has this reputation for being the hardest major European tongue (it's definitely hard, but Polish does look like it would have the edge).


i would imagine anything with a non latin alphabet would be hard
Agreed, but trumped by no alphabet though :excruciating:


I'd imagine a language where the sounds are not used in your own, something like one of those languages in Africa (I forget which language or country) that uses the clicking sound, would be tricky.
Xhosa is maybe the major one. From what I've heard of it and San it's not the hardest part to say though!

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