Pizarro miniatures

[gary]

Hi I wanted to know if anyone had dealt with this company as I seem to be having trouble ordering from them. I placed an order with them but wanted to use there paypal option, the problem is they don\'t have a button just an account name and no information of what they need if you use paypal, such as item details and customer details. I have tried emailing them but with no luck.
Any ideas or help would be great.
Gary

 

[Donga]

Use a stockist:

http://www.elgrecominiatures.co.uk/

They are very helpful

 

[gary]

I have used these and historex for a long time as my mini market of choice, but as of late i\'m getting tired of being ripped of more and more. The model I want is almost double from elgrecominiatures and then the big insult is they want more on postage from uk to uk than pizarro want on spain to the uk. If I have to I will use a uk stockist but I prefer to buy from source now, I hope if enough people do this the uk stockists will stop taking the p*** with customers. Ok rant over and thanks for trying to help me it is most welcome.
Gary

 

[falela]

maybe you can email them directly?

One thing I found on their site is that, their currency exchange is really weird:
€30.00 = £15.09 = USD30 = CAD$33.18

?????? maybe not up to date

 

[gary]

Well I jut got a reply so maybe someone noticed this thread. I agree with the strange conversion as the price I have been told for the total is higher than what is said on the site.
Gary

 

[Ritual]

It was a long time since £1 = €2. I don\'t think El Greco will rip you off. They\'re very decent people.

 

[gary]

The price issue I raised with el greco was that the model i want is £20.12 from pizarro and £34 from el greco. The post from pizarro is £2.52 from spain to england the price from el greco for post is £3.40. So no matter what way you look at it they are adding on a large percentage of profit. The price of models doesn\'t concern me often, I mainly collect from 1/3-1/8 so i\'m used to paying a higher price. The thing that annoys me is how the middle men companys like el greco and historex as of late have started to add on a lot compared to buying straight from the producer. But this is going way of topic and belongs in a new thread maybe.
Gary

 

[Ritual]

The only thing that costs £34 from Pizarro at El Greco is the dancers, and those are €40 at the Pizarro site. If you check how much that is with current exchange rates it is £37.32. If Pizarro charges you £20.12 for it they get shafted by themselves...

 

[gary]

And yet in there email that is the ammount they are charging, so this is why the el greco price in my mind is crazy.

 

[Ritual]

No, what\'s crazy is that Pizarro are losing money on not updating the exchange rates on their online store. El Greco has most likely made a wholesale deal with them and been given a price according to current exchange rates. That makes their price more than reasonable.

What Pizarro does is selling their products for almost half the price if you chose to pay in GBP. THAT is the crazy thing!

£20.12 = €21.58 for something that costs €40 if you pay in Euro.

 

[gary]

This seems to have gone way of topic my post was about help in trying to contact pizarro not about el greco and there prices. The only reason I mentioned the price was when el greco was given as an alternative place to make my purchase. And from a buyers point of view why would i buy this item from el greco when it is so much more.

 

[Ritual]

You got your answer from Pizarro, so what does it matter if this thread goes off topic?

All I\'m saying is that El Greco\'s price seems fair! You accused them of ripping you off and taking the piss with their customers. That is a pretty serious accusation and potentially harmful for a small business like El Greco. And you really shouldn\'t say things like that in public without having a strong case. That is bad form! At least do the math first!

The only weird thing here is that Pizarro seem to be losing money when you pay in GBP. You can\'t seriously expect El Greco to sell the products at a loss because Pizarro seem to be doing that? Go ahead and buy the product from Pizarro and save money (unless you want to inform them of this thing), but don\'t accuse other vendors of foul play when the situation has nothing to do with them.

 

[waghorn41]

I\'ll just chip in here about the postage. I recently had to send two packets , identical, one within the UK the other airmail to Spain. It was cheaper to send to Spain! Even the post office counter staff couldn\'t believe it.

 

[gary]

Now i only stated it was regarding this one model that the pi** was being taken and I was right on that. El greco of Brackley will be dealing in english pounds and get a bulk discount so they will get each model for cheaper than the price pizarro quoted me and yet there price on the pizarro models rockets up. My order had nothing to do with the pizarro currency converter as they sent me the ammount in an email, so an english company ordering from them wouldn\'t pay any more than me. So before you acuse me of not doing the maths you should understand this has nothing to do with there online currency converter.
The main point of my post was that I couldn\'t order from them using there site I needed to do it all by email, so any pricing of the model was down to them and they chose £20.12 as the price of the model. I think on other models such as the knights models marvel collection el greco offers great prices but on this selection of models the prices are far to high for what they as an english company will be paying.
Gary
As an added point the pi** taking with other miniature suppliers I should state I can only refer to the uk ones I deal with , and being that I visit other parts of europe a lot during the year I do think in england we get overcharged by uk dealers.

 

[Ritual]

Originally posted by gary
I have used these and historex for a long time as my mini market of choice, but as of late i\'m getting tired of being ripped of more and more. The model I want is almost double from elgrecominiatures and then the big insult is they want more on postage from uk to uk than pizarro want on spain to the uk. If I have to I will use a uk stockist but I prefer to buy from source now, I hope if enough people do this the uk stockists will stop taking the p*** with customers. Ok rant over and thanks for trying to help me it is most welcome.
Gary

Your words, not mine.

And as the currency in Spain is Euro the real price of the product is €40 and that is £37 with current exchange rate. I have no idea why Pizarro charges customers half the price if they chose GBP instead of Euro, but that seems like an error to me. I don\'t expect they WANT to lose half the income on products just because someone happen to pay in GBP. Can\'t you see that this is what is strange? Not that El Greco charges a price that is £3 less than what the price from Pizarro SHOULD be according to current exchange rates.

Furthermore, don\'t piss on El Greco for Royal Mail shipping prices. That is what you\'re doing in the quote above.

 

[freakinacage]

i got stuff from pizarro, took me weeks to sort out the price they wanted (as they had the old euro conversion pricing) they ended up sending the models. took another week to find out the email for paypal and they never accepted the payment. about £30 worth of models free

 

[Amazon warrior]

What I\'m taking from this thread is that Pizzaro are really disorganised....

 

[gary]

Ritual move to england and you will see uk stockists of anything pretty much take the pi**. I will use an example of miniatures, when i was in milan I picked up pegaso\'s 75mm xv century roaming knight for under £75 when I made my last order from historex I noticed they charge £95 for the same model. Know my point was that even if I ordered it direct from pegaso it still would have been cheaper than ordering it from a uk stockist and this is something I see more and more.
You\'re right I shouldn\'t have taken out my frustration on el greco but being from england I see this mark up problem all the time. I understand that companys need to make a profit but I see no reason to buy from them if it is cheaper elsewhere.

The other point regarding the price of the model, to anyone paying in pound sterling the price is £20.12 without shipping so that is the price el greco would have paid as well. I don\'t know why pizarro want to charge so much less for the english but they do. And having worked in finance before el greco\'s bank transfers would be in pound sterling, if they want to charge the euro price thats fine with me but as the pizarro email said because i was paying in £ I got the cheaper price and I can\'t see that being any different for el greco.

Ofcourse I can\'t say that el greco didn\'t contact pizarro and say we would like to pay the higher price in euros even though we can get the cheaper price in sterling. So maybe your right and they decided they would rather pay more than any other english buyer and sadly have to sell higher, who knows for sure.
Gary

 

[Ritual]

You make assumptions about what the deal between Pizarro and El Greco is and that Pizarro give them the same bizarre price. You don\'t know more than I do about that! In the email from Pizarro to you, did they actually say that \"because you pay in GBP we will only charge you slightly more than half the regular price for this product\" or did they simply state the sum £20.12 (the same as their webstore state for GBP)?

 

[gary]

Ok this could drag on forever. I have allready said I don\'t know for sure if el greco got £ or euro, the thing you don\'t seem to see in my posts is that they aren\'t using the website currency converter the, dick turpin model i asked them about is at a different price then the converter would have it at.
If a company is small or big they want to make profits we can all agree on that. If they paid the euro price of 40 euros how can they then sell it for £34 which would equal 36.47 odd euros, by your way they would barely make any profit at all evan if they got a bulk discount.