P3 compared to GW and OSL

[strewart]

Hi guys, two questions. First of all, which GW paint colour is arcane blue from P3 closest to? I tried searching for a comparison guide, but haven\'t had much luck so far. I think the closest I will have is ice blue, but so far my ice blue looks a lot different to another\'s arcance blue.

Secondly, and the reason I am using bright blue, I am giving OSL a try. One or two tutorials I have read say to water down the paint heavily and apply it as a wash or glaze. Really? Isn\'t that going to make it go into the crevices rather than being brightest on top as OSL should be?

I have searched the main CMON article list, and the sticky at the top of this forum, and found a bit on OSL. Anything further I should know as a beginner? The articles seem to focus on getting the colour in the right place, but don\'t really go into the techniques used.

Cheers for any replies.

 

[Amazon warrior]

Originally posted by strewart
One or two tutorials I have read say to water down the paint heavily and apply it as a wash or glaze. Really? Isn\'t that going to make it go into the crevices rather than being brightest on top as OSL should be?

If you have too much paint on your brush, this certainly will happen. Dab off excess paint on a tissue or rag, then apply your brush to the mini. If you do it right, you should almost be able to watch the paint drying as paint it on. It\'s not a technique for the impatient, but it does give good results.

 

[Avelorn]

Ok. some thoughts I have had on the subject.

A common mistake is to shade and highlight the light effect. Start by using a very bright shade of the colour you will use for OSl and mix that into the colour of the surfaces you are going to use. You can also use glazes but that is not essential.

So as an example, ice blue on a blood red surface:

Mix ice blue into the blood red and a purer mix the closer to the light source. Do not mix ice blue with darker blues and then go into the red. If the midtones come out looking weird wait until you\'ve completed the effect, it might look good then, if not fix it with glazes. Compementary light effects are the most difficult in that respect (red light on green surface, vice versa)

However if you are portraying fire you can use red of the edges, especially on reflective surfaces. Think of it essentially as an reflection of fire and that is brightest closer to the centre and more red towards the edges.

Try lighting some candles (and christmas lights for coloured light) and study the light effects on different surfaces in a dark room and in a lit room. That\'s really the best way of approaching it in my opinion.

 

[strewart]

Originally posted by Amazon warrior

Originally posted by strewart
One or two tutorials I have read say to water down the paint heavily and apply it as a wash or glaze. Really? Isn\'t that going to make it go into the crevices rather than being brightest on top as OSL should be?

If you have too much paint on your brush, this certainly will happen. Dab off excess paint on a tissue or rag, then apply your brush to the mini. If you do it right, you should almost be able to watch the paint drying as paint it on. It\'s not a technique for the impatient, but it does give good results.

So its a bit like... Drybrushing except with heavily watered paint? (if that even makes sense)

It seems like there are a lot of different ways to approach this. I guess I will try a few different things on different test models. I\'m starting with an old high elf mage making the top of his staff glowing and his sword later on. I\'ll post pics when done for critisicm, it harder than I thought so far.

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by strewart
Hi guys, two questions. First of all, which GW paint colour is arcane blue from P3 closest to?

According to the Silicon Dragons site it\'s Ghostly Grey :no:lol

An exact match isn\'t that important though, what you want is a light blue that you think looks right. Since you mention you\'ve tried Ice Blue what do you think the difference is between it and what you can see in photos where Arcane Blue was used? Is it whiter, less cyan, more blue?

Originally posted by strewart
One or two tutorials I have read say to water down the paint heavily and apply it as a wash or glaze. Really? Isn\'t that going to make it go into the crevices rather than being brightest on top as OSL should be?

Washes go into recesses, glazes stay where you put them. Pretty much as already said, the paint is heavily thinned but there\'s very little of it on the brush. In the right circumstances you can actually watch it dry right in front of your eyes, that\'s how little you\'re putting on.

Originally posted by strewart
So its a bit like... Drybrushing except with heavily watered paint? (if that even makes sense)

No, nothing like drybrushing.

Drybrushing, apart from the difference in paint consistency, is applied in a flicking motion and applies paints to raised detail. Glazing is about putting thinned colour exactly where you want it to be.

Einion

 

[Shawn R. L.]

One thing I have been doing is putty in an area that I\'m going to do OSL in - as in the eyes. Crevices can put shadows where they shouldn\'t be when doing OSL.