nmm or metallics?!?!?!?!? please help me!

[matt15595]

Ive been told that i need to touch up on my metals-- most people say my dark angels armour is great but its the metal that i need to work on..... so i have a few questions and queries

Questions
which looks better?
which is easier to get a good result from/highlight and stuff?

Queries

How do i paint NMM (please make it simple-links or photos if possible aswell)?


How do i paint METALLICS (please make it simple-links or photos if possible aswell)?


THANKS

(i will post some pics of my minis soon)

THANKS-again

 

[daemon boy]

well, nornal metalics are easier, for a beginner to use, and nmm takes ages. and it can look really bad if not dome well, like a well done grey, or just poor. i did an article on weathering metalics that covers both nmm and metallics, it doesnt go int depth into nmm but its cool!
link

 

[generulpoleaxe]

Originally posted by daemon boy
well, nornal metalics are easier, for a beginner to use, and nmm takes ages. and it can look really bad if not dome well, like a well done grey, or just poor. i did an article on weathering metalics that covers both nmm and metallics, it doesnt go int depth into nmm but its cool!
link

metalics done properly take just as long if not longer than nmm.
the people who think metalics are quick are the ones who just throw a couple of washes on it and call it done, yet they then spend ages working on their nmm. ???

if you want anything to look good put the time in.
metalics look best when done with the knowledge that learning nmm brings as it involves using light sources for your shadows and highlights.

matt 15595, the article section is very good and a quick search will do you some good as you will find other articles their that may be of use to you at a later date.

 

[mattrock]

I completely disagree. The theory behind NMM and true metallics is largely the same. One is not easier to use than another in my opinion though it would be true that the typical beginner would work with metallics first.

The key isn\'t whether you use NMM or metallic, it\'s learning to do either (or both) well.

Metallics tend to give a more realistic and gritty look while at the same time being a bit more dynamic in person (meaning that you can turn them pretty much any angle and they will still largely look convincing.) NMM tends more towards a cleaner or more cartoony look and tend to look better in pictures as it is a technique that was originally implemented on two dimensional media.

Automaton posted a great article on metallics here in the articles section that you can find on the main page under the recent articles bar on the right side. That article contributed to the creation of olliekickflip\'s outstanding Mangu Timur, linked here

As for NMM, there is a great article to that end on the site linked here

It\'s interesting, because I see a lot of people who tend to remark about metallics being easier or about NMM being somehow superior and I just dont\' really thing that\'s the case at all. They both have their applications and a truly great painter will learn to master both. In truth, you\'ll likely find FAR fewer examples of truly GOOD metallics than you will NMM out there.

Hope that\'s helpful.

 

[Godlikebuthumble]

Try checking Jakob Nielsen\'s site for some tips. http://www.jrn-works.dk/ He does awesome work with real metals.

Also, the aforementioned article for real metals, and pretty much any article on NMM on this site

And, as has been said: Both NMM and metallics have their use, and it pretty much depends on the style of the minis and your painting which one you prefer. I\'m usually doing metallics, but for my Rackham minis, I\'m doing NMM, as it seems to fit the more cartoonish style of the figs (and the paintjobs I do on them).

 

[matt15595]

thanks everyone

i was looking more towards metallics because i like the look of them more and with nmm its harder to get a good result (dont shout at me for the above comment)

so how will i go about painting

Gold

and

Silver

thanks

 

[Moribund]

I agree that the RMM looks better IMO, NMM don\'t do it for me except for when it\'s absolutely perfectly done.

To paint gold and silver, I usually use the same techniques. A good layer of the metal paint, and then thin glazes of paint to shade it.

I\'m not entirely confident in what exactly I do, but this article is what I\'m talking about!

 

[Dark Lord]

One thing I think that not enough people do with RMM is add colors to the metallics.
Too many models are just black undercoats and/or washes with dry brushed layers of straight from the pot metallics.

It looks a million times better if you add a little color to your metallics. Painting gold? Start with an under layer of brown or dark green, next paint over that with gold with a little red mixed in, then for the next layer use straight gold, then do a highlight layer of gold with white or yellow mixed in.

Same with silvers. Add a bit of blue to that silver for a shiny shield. Is that red cloak gonna be reflecting off the shield? Well dry brush that area with a little red mixed into the silver.

Not much mind you, just a little...enough to change it a little.

A little reddish silver on the area of a shield that would reflect the cloak can look realistic and good from several angles without all the NMM woes.

 

[matt15595]

ooooooooh

reflections

that could make it better



and colours!!!!!


THANKS!!!