Mixing graphite or drawing charcoals in paint to create effects.

shaun5603

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IS there any tips or tutorials on how to mix and what products give the base effects.

I was looking to make bits of flesh and gore for attaching to chain blade lighting claws , etc. I tried out green stuff but it was too thick and didn't look right. I know some of painters at FW have use these and there mediums to make the giving effects. I just can't figure it my self.

The second effect I was going to adding left over skin and such when doing burn and char remains. I using a lot of WFB skeleton bits on bases and trying to capture the life like resembles of burnt and char remains.

So far I just painted the with bone color mix starting dark and working very light high like on the tips and other parts almost using yellowish color, but I can't capture the look right of leaving burnt flesh stuck on to the bones. After I paint them I add varies of black weathering power to give it an overly burnt feel. But the still look flat and not life like.

For the chunks of flesh and gore on my blades, I tried the weathering powers too but it came out chalky and did sit right. So did some reachsure and read about adding graphite and drawing charcoals but don't know how to do or where to start.
 

MAXXxxx

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to be honest I'd need 2 things from you too:
- pictures on what you want to achive
- link where you read about this added charcoal thingie.

as for tips (I could have the wrong idea without the pics, but whatever):

flesh and gore:
- you could try making the GS much thinner. Before working with it wait for about 10-20 minutes, then it's not as sticky. using some lubricant (water/petroleum jelly) push it onto the surface, flatten out a bit, then put something similarly lubricated on top. Finall with something heavy roll it out to a paper-thin sheet. From this you can tear 'flesh' pieces (before or even after it's cured)
- or you could use a tissue drenched in PVA (makes it harder and more resilient) as a base for the fleshy bits, then add some texture with a liquid putty (vallejo plastic putty or liquid GS, both thinned with aceton to melt it partially) and with the help of some texturing tool (old toothbrush or toothpick can work here).

gore:
- Tamiya X27 Clear Red :) . That's all you need. It is the original for blood (not GW's "blood for the blood god" version). besides the gloss + transparent nature a big thing is, that when it begins to dry it becomes quite thick that gives a 3d structure too to the paint. It can be seen here very well what I mean (around the middle of the entry): http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2010/05/tutorial-how-to-paint-blood.html
- you could add extra 3d structure for gore with glue, like here: http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2009/10/tutorial-making-ugly-strings-and-stuff.html ( I think the Jinx (demon baby) from helldorado picture show what you want to have)


burnt skin on skeleton:
- I'd try using a crackle medium on it. (a bit like here: http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2011/07/tutorial-how-to-paint-some-burned-wood.html or on the skin here: http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.de/2013/05/step-by-step-mephisto.html )
 
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This discussion reawakens some nightmares for me. Thought it maybe best if I stay out of this one, but what the hey....

....burnt flesh, irl, when someone is exceedingly burnt and succumbs to these injuries, has a strange appearance. It generally looks like black over an orangey base. Can't remember the name, but there is a GW flesh color that looks tan/orangish that is perfect as a base coat. So I would paint crackle medium onto the flesh, then base coat in the orangey color. Then, finally, take coal black weathering powder and add many, many layer, making sure that the skin shows somewhat in spots. In places of skin that are not charred, discolor it with your normal flesh in places and the orangey color in other spots.

Hope that helps. ::shudders::
 

shaun5603

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This discussion reawakens some nightmares for me. Thought it maybe best if I stay out of this one, but what the hey....

....Burnt flesh, irl, when someone is exceedingly burnt and succumbs to these injuries, has a strange appearance. It generally looks like black over an orangey base. Can't remember the name, but there is a GW flesh color that looks tan/orangish that is perfect as a base coat. So I would paint crackle medium onto the flesh, then base coat in the orangey color. Then, finally, take coal black weathering powder and add many, many layer, making sure that the skin shows somewhat in spots. In places of skin that are not charred, discolor it with your normal flesh in places and the orangey color in other spots.

Hope that helps. ::shudders::

I know where coming from,I got back in to hobby when I got out.

I have tried the crackle paint it looks somewhat ok I did dusted it with black weathering power. As for the skeleton bits I tried that and somewhat it came out with glowing effect, wasn't bad but I toned it down with yellows to give the bones the more discolored look.

As for posting pictures whats the best to post them on here? I wont be posting the photos that trying to recreate, just of what I doing on the models.

I can't seam to locate the link where I read about the adding the graphite and drawing charcoals to paints for added effectives I thought I save it but I didn't. When my order of GS stuff arrives i will try thinning it out like suggested.
 
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