thanks for the reply guys, on the arms I was trying to go a little for a almost reflected look... it didnt come out that great maybe I should have just went all out and worked some brown into the bottom portion of it instead of just staying with the blueish color. I argee with the thinner shading on the pauldron as well, looking at the mini on the table top you dont notice how thick it is intill its on the screen it looks huge, def. have to correct that. Thanks for the comments and votes I\'ll try and apply these ideas and come up with a better mini next marine.