manual drill

[barkel]

I\'m kind of sick and delirious, so this question may be obvious.

Is there a hand-held, manual drill, that can drill holes about the size of a pencil lead?

I\'m trying to drill a hole in the fist of a goblin. I\'m worried that if I use my dremel, even though I have a bit small enough, I\'ll end up shredding the hand right off his arm. So, I figured if I had a manual drill I could have more control over it.

Does such a thing exist? Surely it must as electricity has only been around for two or three years.

barkel

 

[KatieG]

Yes it exists. GW sells them (although only buy from them if you can\'t find them anywhere else, as with everything they gouge you on the price). What you are looking for is called a pin vise. You can find them in hobby stores or places such as micromark.com. Hope this helps!
--Katie G.

 

[War Griffon]

What you are after is known as a pin vice you should be able to pick up one of these relatively cheaply from a hardware store or somewhere that sells tools of an engineering nature.

 

[War Griffon]

In fact a quick search on google brought up 5 sites straight away one of which was Heresy miniatures cost £5.

happy hunting.

 

[finn17]

Hehe

You might enjoy browsing this little thread..
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=1430

 

[supervike]

still sick and delirious...

Yeah, the magic pin vise.

Much more control than the powerful dremel.

Quite frankly, using my dremel scares the hell out of me. I have to start using some sort of clamp to hold the mini I want to drill. One slip it\'ll rip the snot out of your hands.

 

[finn17]

Hehe...yellow to the core, just like me...

Originally posted by supervike
Quite frankly, using my dremel scares the hell out of me.

You are a very sensible man Super. I have got a Dremel and even on low speeds I treat it with a great deal of respect.
If you think Dremels are scary however, you ought to have a go with a \'Rotozip\'. They make Dremels look like kids toys.
I have solved my dilemma to a certain extent by buying a battery powered Ryobi multi-tool. It\'s really weedy compared to the Dremel but it works fine for minis - it doesn\'t have a cord to get tangled and, best of all, it only works while your finger is on the button. If you drop it in your lap therefore, it is not going to liquidise your goolies

 

[barkel]

Exactly!

I\'ve heard people mention the pin vise a million times here, I just never bothered to ask what it was. So now I know.

I too am yellow when it comes to the dremel. I\'ve used mine 2 or 3 times and every time it scares the hell out of me. I even take the precautions. But short of wearing a metal suit there\'s no way you can protect everything. I wear the glasses and the mask, but if that bit shatters, what are the odds that all the pieces are going to hit the mask?

I used to think the dremel would solve all of my converting problems. But now that I have one I find the most convuluted ways to make things work without it. And I still have all 12 fingers.

barkel

 

[torifile]

New here...

Hello, I\'m new to posting, but have had some minis on CMON for several months. I just wanted to share my experiences with my Dremel. I LOVE it and couldn\'t live without it! I was way too impatient for the pin vise and could never get it to work very well. It always seemed to take an hour to drill the smallest thing. I have a cordless Dremel with 2 speeds, and usually start out on the slowest speed. I wrap the part to be drilled with a paper towel (to protect it) and hold it with needle-nosed pliers (to protect myself) when drilling. My first attempt with a Dremel was at high speed, without the pliers and I ended up drilling a hole in my finger ! The cutting discs work great for conversions, too!

 

[Chrispy]

Heck, I even have a hand held drill that uses a crank to move. It\'s good for when I need to drill something, but not all the way through, and it\'s the only one that fits the smaller drill bits...

 

[Grumbold Ironbrow]

Pin Vice

Barkel;

I see that you are in Athens Geogia. I live in Atlanta, and I bought one recently at my local ACE hardware store. Don\'t know if there is one in Athens, but they are all over Atlanta. As all of the others have said, they are called a pin vice and I seem to recall paying around $10 US for it.

Hope this helps

Cheers,
Grumb

 

[Coyote]

they\'re also used to hold pins

no, seriously. If you want to scribe or sculpt with a pin a pin vise will hold it. Or if you want to heat the pin and use it as a pyroglaive.

Or, you can prepare a miniature for assembly by pinning it, then use the pin vise to hold the miniature while painting (I think Cyril of Passion Figurine does this)

 

[revenant]

pin a mini for painting? gee... never thought of that!

i have a pinvise which i really like! as a dental student i know what could happen when a high-speed cutting/drilling instrument slips. so i\'d elect for control, especially with my minis!

 

[farseerlum]

i\'ll second coyotes suggestion of it holding pins. i use it to hold a needle and it looks lethel, but sooo usefull.

also note you can reverse a metal pin and then you have a cheap burnishing tool.

for those having trouble with drilling time be sure to go to your hobby shop and buy some real bits. these are the fellas doing all the work and if they are blunt you have to do the work instead.

 

[Coyote]

revenant, don\'t credit me, I saw Cyril doing it for his Plague Marine Commander on Passion Figurine.

It\'s a great way to hold small bits like arms and shields. I used to just bluetak it to my normal painting stand. This works somewhat, but the bluetak can lift the paint if you aren\'t careful. I\'m definately going to start using the pinvise in this way myself.

 

[barkel]

speed = pain

Henceforth I will endeavor to find an alternative to using anything electric. I shall regress into the 17th century. (did they have condoms in the 17th century?)

I shall regress almost completely into the 17th century. Getting rid of all the accomodations and luxuries of modern man; excluding condoms, acrylic paint, miniatures, cars, PS2, Internet, antibiotics, and Gold Kist Brand-manure quick dry. I don\'t know how I would grow corn without it.

The more I work with the dremel the more I believe it is an instrument of the devil and that it will spell the end of at least one finger. I will use the pin vise if it takes a month of drilling. I like my fingers.

barkel

ps. To Grumbold Ironbrow: I am familiar with Ace Hardware. We have one here in Athens. I am also familiar with Atlanta. I grew up in Gwinnett and went to Church in Chamblee. I also played little league base ball at Muphy Candler park. We used to go to Perimeter Mall back when it was the only decent mall on the east side. Now they\'ve become a pox. I had prom at the Peachtree Plaza (turns out she was a lesbian - no lie, and I dated her for 18 months), AND a guy once tried to sell me cocaine when I took a wrong turn near Georgia Tech. If you can ignore the worst traffic in the world (hands down - nobody try to argue with me here) and the untethered urban sprawl, then Atlanta is a fantastic place to live.

 

[dauber22]

Good news, Barkel

Condums were invented by the ancient Egyptians. You can safely regress back just about as far back as you could want and sill have them. HOwever, if you\'re truly going to do everything manually... Well, never mind.

 

[finn17]

I am not one to argue, but....

Originally posted by barkel
If you can ignore the worst traffic in the world (hands down - nobody try to argue with me here) and the untethered urban sprawl, then Atlanta is a fantastic place to live.

You really ought to try some of the major European cities, that weren\'t destroyed during the war. I mean seriously, here we are with a million cars trying to use a road network that was built with the odd horse in mind....Well OK, mebbe a group of horses, but you get my point

 

[supervike]

Ancient Facts...

Originally posted by dauber22
Condums were invented by the ancient Egyptians. You can safely regress back just about as far back as you could want and sill have them. HOwever, if you\'re truly going to do everything manually... Well, never mind.

I think the Egyptians invented the PS2 also....

I could be wrong on that.???

 

[barkel]

If the P stood for Pyramid.

Finn17: I thought I said not to argue with me.

barkel

ps. Studies have ranked Atlanta as amoung the worst, and in one particular study, the worst traffic in America. It did not rank other cities of the world. I just exaggerated a little bit. Still, we have 7, sometimes 8 lanes, and you can still hit traffic at 2 am. That blows. And to stay on topic, the traffic will make the trip to get my pin vise a living nightmare.