Making Wings

[Deadite]

Hey all,
Was curious if anyone had any tips for creating your own daemonic wings.
I\'ve got concepts in mind that I don\'t think any premade wings fit. Considering just sculpting a set of wings that would fit the concepts I have in my mind.

But I have trouble visualizing the steps involved, what needs to be done first, etc. Do I complete the \"wing\" part over the wire frame first and add the \"meat\" of the arms later, or vice versa?

Any tips you could provid would be helpful.
Thanks.

 

[Chrispy]

Hmm.. sculpting would be kinda hard, as they\'d be thin.. Maybe if you got some material you can work with like putting thinned plaster on gauze and then puting it on the armature. That would give you a solid base to work from. Most of the sculpting would be in the \"fingers\' between them, though.

 

[Taer]

How about wire armature for the fingers, putty for the details of them, and tin foil for the actual wings themselves? Tin foil is some of the greatest shit ever created.:flip::bouncy:

 

[Deadite]

Thanks for the tips thus far.
Perhaps I should disclose available materials at my disposal.
I have plenty of miliput, greenstuff, super sculpy (baking clay), wire for wireframes, thin plastic tubing, thin plasticard, and of course the tools (squadron tools 4-piece \"putty\" set, toothpicks and all kinds of assorted improvisations).

Was thinking (and I don\'t know if this would work) about making the \"fingers\" armature out of tubing and wires. Then attach some thin plasticard to the armature to create the start of the \"membrane\" for stability. Then with miliput or greenstuff, sculpt the wing membranes in whatever fashion strikes my fancy. Once that\'s done, flesh out the meat of the arms and fingers with greenstuff.

Is that the proper way to go about it? Am I going to shoot myself in the foot with this method (either in creation or post-creation \"accidents\") Anyone have any further tips?

 

[Taer]

Isn\'t plasticard a little too rigid to make a good wing-mambrane shape?:flip::bouncy:

 

[Deadite]

Not if it\'s almost as thin as a sheet of paper.
It\'s quite tangible under 1mm thickness. I\'ve got stuff as thin as .5mm and .3mm (yeah, I know it\'s almost pointless to buy this stuff... but it came in a variety pack)

 

[kittykat23uk]

Hmmm.. it could work, though I have my doubts. Personally, I would get some wire gauze or mesh and use that for the wings, then either use milliput or greenstuff over the top or even papier mache. The benefits of using mesh over the plasticard is that it will hold its shape better, giving you a much more solid base to sculpt the detail onto. I have tried creating wings just using sculpey, but that doesn\'t work very well at all, the wings are way too brittle.

Regards

Kat

 

[Greymane]

I\'ve had a disaster with a similar project some years ago. But i bet if I wasn\'t so impatient it would have worked. The problem to my mind is support.
Therefore you could construct from plasticine or similar a form (like those used to shape shoes or hats) to build the upper side of the wing over, cool and talc this then shape the wings/ wires/ mesh over the top allowing you to sculpt without bending distorting the wing. after each \'session\' the green can cure and when set and finished removed cleaned and the underside done whilst the whole thing is hard. Do not remove before it is cured or like me disaster will strike. also be careful of the center of balance otherwise you might have a huge base to contend with.
I hope this makes sense it did to me and I can see the whole tragedy in vivid colour to this day so remeber 24 hrs to cure does not mean 6hrs.???

Mike

 

[finn17]

How about....

Sculpting the framework of the wings with wire/GS/Milliput whatever.
Then add the membrane with tissue soaked in watered-down PVA. you could build it up in some areas, keep it thin in others, add wrinkles and still end up with a nice, translucent effect that imitated real membrane

 

[freakinacage]

finn has it right. i have seen people do this and it looks quite good. i would be tempted to put the tissue paper on first though and then sculpt on the fingers. have tried something similar myself and have found that it is easier to put the paper on the armature and then brush some pva (white glue) on. then build up the layers if you so wish. that stops mucking around with some damp, sticky tissue paper. i expect a pic to see what the final piece looks like