How to create water on a base or diaroma?

wevin

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I have been painting for almost a year now and I would like to do something special for a change. I already have a few ideas, but the problem is that I don\'t have a clue on how to create a water effect on bases etc. . Do I have to use some kind of glue and pour a blue ink over it or is there something in particular that might help me? Any help is welcome.
 

No Such Agency

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Not to toot my own horn, but my approach (for this mini) was to use clear acrylic \"artists\' gel\"). It made pretty good shallow running water. For deeper pools/rivers I understand clear resin of some kind is used. A number of good suggestions were made in this forum discussion, including Ultra-Glo and Woodland Scenics \"Realistic Water\" products.
 

Chrispy

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Well, blue ink wouldn\'y help.. I don\'t know what\'s with people, but water in not blue, it\'s clear, the effect of blue water at sea and big lakes is the reflection of the sun. NSA\'s tips are right, painting the base first then applying scrylic gel is best. I use Water Effects by Wooldand Scenics, it\'s good for strands of blood or slobber when you put a line on a smooth surface and pick it up after it dries. I wish is were a bit more sculptable, though as it can stick to the tool you\'re shaping it with and give \"points\" to the water.

If you\'re just looking for a small puddle or very shallow stream, a high gloss coat over your base will do it! :D
 

freakinacage

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all those ideas in the old forum are great but does anyone know of any british companies that produce any acrylic gel or anything thats good at making water. i bought some expoxy the other day but it\'s got a red tinge to it:(
 

finn17

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Silicone sealant...

Ordinary silicone sealant can be used. It works very well but sticks to everything like sh*t to a blanket so it needs to be used with care. You can get it from builders merchants but they will want to sell you a lifetimes supply in one of those great big applicator gun type refill thingies. Best bet is a trip down your local petshop where you can buy small tubes of the stuff designed to repair fishtanks. Reasonable economical and guaranteed to be clear. (People don\'t want to look at their fish through a purple haze - unless they\'re Jimi Hendrix). You can get a good idea about the stickiness of this stuff when you realise they use it to build fishtanks - think of the pressure generated by all that water!
Woodland scenic products are supposed to be good. Dunno myself \'cos I haven\'t tried them. You can get their products in the UK from model railway shops. I have just asked a pal, who owns a model railway shop - as it happens, to order me some. Freakinacage - I might be able to get some more for you, if you can\'t get it in your neck of the woods.
 

Sjakkie

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Originally posted by wevin
but the problem is that I don\'t have a clue on how to create a water effect on bases etc. .

Hi wevin,

Perhaps the following article will prove to be usefull:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/go.php?go=articlephp&aid=105&orderby=date&levels=99

Not quite sure if that link will work... it is in the articles section of this site under sculpting.

Good luck!

Ciao,
Jacky
 

freakinacage

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i made a pond type thing once and used a load of yacht varnish. very good result for murky/rusty/dank water. took ages to dry though. maybe next time i\'ll do it in a couple of layers, - i did use about half the can silly me
 
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elouchard

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Chris,

I hate to say it but water is not blue because of sky reflection. It\'s blue because of preferential absorption of red light by water molecules. Other constituents such as phytoplankton and suspended sediment will make the water brown or green but normally it is blue/green.

You can try an experiment in your sink or bathtub. Look at the color of the tub before and after you fill it with water.

Eric
 
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