gd entrys

[the catman]

well im not sure if this is the right place but anyway.
im entering some differant catogries as you probabbly know but anyway Im going to see what you think.

1-yb-im doing the classic brettonian damsel conversion and making it a vampire. Im not going to be copying jrn. I got the idea from him but the conversion is that in the hand that up it will be holding a sord so there will be two swords. they will be nmm and im doing the eyes osl with a greenish glaze and the light slightly green.
what do you think???

2-diorama-im doing a guard camp with a genesteeler creeping up. there will be a fire in the midel and the guard (10 of them) will be sitting round it.there will be osl and dark shadows from the guard. they will be sitting on logs and the terrain is a island with water round it (like a swamp) and the genesteller will be looking out from a pile of wood at the edge of the island. im wondering if I should have a tent as well and a senetial (its a patrol).
what do you think.

3-40k single-im doing a termie chaplain, no conversions. the chapter will be I dont know, any ideas on the chapter will be welcome. theres going to be osl and nmm.

4-wfb single OR monster-a dwarf lord with shield bearers. the dwarf lord is the one with the pistol or the hammer and shield, im not sure. but they will all be on one base.
what do you think.

iv got other ideas I may do if they ^^^ dont work.

so tell me what you think of them and if you would offer some improvements.

the catman

 

[mud duck]

Oh this is getting annoying. Well third times a charm. (Troubles posting sorry)

As for the guard. No fire. Looks cool, but I\'m thinking that it may be a pain in the backside to figger out all the shadows. Plus the idea of lighting a fire on patrol is something that a soldier would do. Robs nightsight, and the idea of collecting wood for a fire is a time consuming one, especially if someone has a flashlight, or a portable light source. I\'m am thinking that you may wish to go with a squad of engineers building something (bridge, minefield, fighting postion, etc.) where they would have a gas powered light up and running. Then you could have pvt. Jenkins on the outside of that light, guarding , smoking, or taking a piss(whatever), with the Genestealer coming out of the shadows just about to take his head off. Make the sence about the bridge and not the genestealer, have people have to look at it a couple of times to even see that all hell is about to open up on these poor guard.
A second thought on the idea with a sential in \"frame\", is how big is this going to be? Yes you could use it as the source of light, and a powerlifter would be a nice thing to have at a bridge sight (some of those pieces are close to 900 pounds.) But do you have the room for it?
As for the rest of your ideas, sounds good to me. Good Luck.
Brian

 

[generulpoleaxe]

catman, keep it simple and just do one model at a time.

the more complex you try and make things as well as the more entries you try and finish the lower the quality will be.

one mini at a time and try and improve one skill on each model.

 

[the catman]

im sort of doing that. first im doing the vampire and trying to get it to work.
then ill do 2nd entry, then third, then forth.
also im not going to do it in that order. ill do yb first, then 40k single, then the dwarf then if I have time I may do the guard thing. im not really sure because it does seem that it will take a hell of a long time but it should look really cool if finished.

the catman

 

[lono]

Originally posted by the catman
1-yb-im doing the classic brettonian damsel conversion and making it a vampire. Im not going to be copying jrn. I got the idea from him but the conversion is that in the hand that up it will be holding a sord so there will be two swords. they will be nmm and im doing the eyes osl with a greenish glaze and the light slightly green.
what do you think???
Sounds OK. Real metallics tend to be the best bet for UK GD. You can obviously still win with NMM but the judges will still prefer metallics in most cases, particularly with a dark mini. OSL from the eyes isn\'t necessarily in keeping with the GW fluff either. Watch out for that.

2-diorama-im doing a guard camp with a genesteeler creeping up. there will be a fire in the midel and the guard (10 of them) will be sitting round it.there will be osl and dark shadows from the guard. they will be sitting on logs and the terrain is a island with water round it (like a swamp) and the genesteller will be looking out from a pile of wood at the edge of the island. im wondering if I should have a tent as well and a senetial (its a patrol).
what do you think.

Focus on working out a good scene and getting some good narrative flow within it. A circle of men isn\'t really the best plan because you need to tailor the scene so it has a good viewing angle. Looking at backs aint great. Don\'t focus so much on OSL. The judges don\'t really care about techniques and tricks as much as an entry that captures the essence of the GW world.

3-40k single-im doing a termie chaplain, no conversions. the chapter will be I dont know, any ideas on the chapter will be welcome. theres going to be osl and nmm.

Once again, focus on using techniques that suit the mini, not just things that seem to create a buzz because you think they are advanced techniques.

4-wfb single OR monster-a dwarf lord with shield bearers. the dwarf lord is the one with the pistol or the hammer and shield, im not sure. but they will all be on one base.
what do you think.

Nothing particularly new here. Could be OK if you paint it really well.

iv got other ideas I may do if they ^^^ dont work.

so tell me what you think of them and if you would offer some improvements.

the catman

 

[the catman]

thanks for clearing that up. I wasnt sure how to win apart from being a great painter you need to have a great idea!

Iv already dropped the termie idea. and the guard idea, I may still do something (I had an idea of a tau stick caos marine in a game of 40k.
anyway thats a releif because Im not so good with nmm. metallics (can be) much easier.

the catman

 

[OrkyDave]

Regarding Diorama- I reckon a lictor would be more ace-ier, as it is propper sneaky sneaky stalky stealth death like, and more likeley to catch the guardsmen unawares. Possibly a semi circle of men rather than the full circle as to eliminate any models with their backs to the audience- after all the face is the natural focal point.

otherwise just heed the words of Genrul and Lono- some very sound advice from two very sound people, both with experience of the demons- as a contestant and judging assistant respectiveley.

 

[the catman]

thats a good idea. I could do a half circle of guard and the lictor right behind them??? a bit like the guard stick lictor duel that victoria lamb did.???

anyway for the 40k single im thinking of doing a conversion were I use the commisioner yarrick model and ad a beard, cut away the claw and add a banner, then call it a preacher!!!

the catman

 

[Killing With A Smile]

Im no expert at painting etc but its sounds like your scraping the barrell for ideas just so you can enter GD.

Take your time, maybe wait til you know your atually ready and with the perfect idea in mind. I mean you have changed your mind about what your going to do about 3 times already since posting this thread, know what i mean.

Take your time dude

 

[the catman]

im not scraping the barrel for ideas but the thing is if I actually get one model Ill paint it but if left on my own ill think of new things I like.
what Ill probabbly end up doing is get about 5 ideas painted to the best of my ability and then pick the best and enter with that one.

the catman

 

[TokenArtGuy]

Honestly I think the IG patrol being snuck up on by some genestealers is the best idea. Lictors are a little overdone, IMO. Possibly have the patrol in the a forest with flashlights, night vision goggles and a similarly equipped sentinel. Maybe they have come accross some other dead soldier ambushed by a tyranid and are starting to get spooked by the situation.

I agree with the others about focusing on one entry. Why not spend the time that you\'d take on extra models going back and fixing issues or errors with your original idea? That would give you plenty of time to get some feedback and make your model the best that it can be. I think that you will have better luck being careful and doing the best you can with your entry rather than an ok or even good job with several others.

Whatever you decide take your time.
- Don\'t rush your work.
- Study your subject.
- Choose your colors very carefully.
- Don\'t be afraid to ask people for input and criticism, but be sure to listen.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck.

 

[AinuLainour]

Honestly man, I\'ve tried giving you advice but you always ignore me so I\'m not going to bother in the 3rd thread about the same thing..

 

[the catman]

I dont ignore you but just read what you have to say.im sorry if it seems like I do ignore you.
this smiley shows I dont ignore you---

the catman

 

[Rigged4Mini]

You just recently asked about OSL and NMM and how to paint it... If you\'ve never tried these techiques. Before you start worrying about GD you should practice them by painting figures.

The last 3 figures you posted, you stated that your style is \"messy\", if I\'m not mistaken.. I\'ve never entered GD but I assume that the judges don\'t consider \"messy\" a style..

It\'s great that you found CMON as there is a wealth of info here..but you need to put that info into practice..

We all aspire to enter and win a contest... but we all need to accept the fact that we can\'t win without practice..

I don\'t want you to spend hours driving to your local GD, walking in with a \"messy figure\" and the judges thinking you\'re part of a Benny Hill skit. Start painting, post up and get feedback...

 

[Jericho]

I don\'t see any minis up for voting, so I\'ve completely missed anything you\'ve ever submitted them. Hard to judge anything not knowing where your skill level\'s at.

My word of advice with Demons, if you\'re going to get really ambitious, then make sure you\'re getting ambitious with single entries and not simply ambitious by trying to enter every category possible. Quality is very much more important than quantity.

BTW, try telling John Blanche that messy isn\'t a style. Come on man, we\'ve all seen the fabulous old Sisters of Battle cover, we know you can do a LOT better than most of the art you get printed these days