First resin model, looking for advice

grunts1175

grunts1175

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Hi everyone. I\'ve just purchased my first resin model (Gribbly Miniatures - Troll King), and I just want to make sure I know everything I need to before proceeding with painting. I searched the forums and found that a soap & water bath and scrubb are necessary, anything else I should know?

One question in particular I have is regarding assembly. Normally when I assemble a model this size I would pin it and use superglue, but resin feels very brittle when I handled it. Is pinning a dangerous task? Should I use a different glue?

Thanks for any advice. :beer:
 
freakinacage

freakinacage

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wash is important, after that just treat as normal but be careful as it is brittle as hell normally. super glue should be fine
 
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matty1001

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Aye superglue is fine for resin. Wouldn\'t hurt to do a test though on a clipped off piece of resin just to check your glue doesn\'t damage it.

And pinning, why not. Pinning is fine with resin (if you think it feels brittle just go slow) and will only add strength to the join. Better to do it now than after the piece has fallen off umpteen times.

Peace and love...
 
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Ritual

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Superglue does not damage resin. It doesn\'t even damage plastic.

I know everyone always tells you to wash resin, but I never do that and I\'ve bought resin minis from a lot of different places. I did the first couple of times but I didn\'t notice any difference whatsoever when I stopped. If the resin mini has an oily finish or is visibly covered with something, sure, wash it. But I\'ve yet to come across any such thing.

About pinning... I have a simple strategy: If it\'s physically possible to pin something, pin it!
 
grunts1175

grunts1175

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He\'s all pinned! Heres a quick pic of him assembled (the one on the left). The model on the right was just for size comparison.

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Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by Ritual
I know everyone always tells you to wash resin, but I never do that and I\'ve bought resin minis from a lot of different places.
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You lucky, lucky beggar.
I\'ve got several pieces from FouGou Wilde which I\'ve had to scrub with Toothpaste to get the release agent off.
Of course didn\'t find out they needed it until after priming. :rolleyes:
 
Einion

Einion

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Originally posted by grunts1175
He\'s all pinned! Heres a quick pic of him assembled (the one on the left).
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Great pic! I think that\'s better than the shots on their website :)


Originally posted by Ritual
I know everyone always tells you to wash resin, but I never do that and I\'ve bought resin minis from a lot of different places.
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I think we should focus on it being good general advice to do so though - good experiences (luck) not cleaning castings doesn\'t mean it\'s advisable not to.
Originally posted by Ritual
About pinning... I have a simple strategy: If it\'s physically possible to pin something, pin it!
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I\'d much prefer to have a joint that\'s too strong than too weak!


Originally posted by droogie77
After it has been washed and dried, spray it with some matte varnish before priming.
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That\'s a redundant step, and could undermine things at the end of the day. Primer is designed to bond well and to have paint bond to it well, varnish is only intended to bond to paint; no reason not to stick to (sorry for the pun!) a known, solid, method.

Einion
 
droogie77

droogie77

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It worked for my forgeworld dreadnought arms . I scrubbed the hell out of them and the primer refused to stick, just kept flaking off. I scrubbed it twice more and the primer started to shrink off in some places. Somebody gave me that tip on this forum and it worked for me :)
 
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Ritual

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Originally posted by Einion
Originally posted by Ritual
I know everyone always tells you to wash resin, but I never do that and I\'ve bought resin minis from a lot of different places.
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I think we should focus on it being good general advice to do so though - good experiences (luck) not cleaning castings doesn\'t mean it\'s advisable not to.
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I don\'t know if luck has anything to do with it. Resin is my preferred miniature material and I NEVER wash my minis and have NEVER experienced any problems so far. I\'ve never even seen a miniature or resin base or anything with release agent still on it.

If you want to wash your resin minis, I won\'t stop you. But after a while that\'s a lot of time spent on something that, in my experience, is hardly ever needed.

I just think it\'s strange that everyone says it is important, when I have never experienced any problems not doing it. :)
 
Einion

Einion

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Originally posted by droogie77
It worked for my forgeworld dreadnought arms . I scrubbed the hell out of them and the primer refused to stick, just kept flaking off.
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Scrubbing with Cif might have done the trick, similarly going over the surface with a fibreglass eraser.

Which primer out of curiosity?


Originally posted by Ritual
I don\'t know if luck has anything to do with it.
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See DR\'s post above...

The reason I clean my castings (I don\'t wash them all the time, sometimes use alcohol or another organic solvent) is primarily because I too have had adhesion problems, even if it\'s only from being handled a lot during cleanup.

Anyone that\'s in any doubt should do comparative tests between a squeaky-clean, smooth-surfaced, casting (resin or white metal) and one that you\'ve handled a lot in order to remove the casting block or mould lines; with me at least you can see a significant difference in ruboff.
Originally posted by Ritual
If you want to wash your resin minis, I won\'t stop you. But after a while that\'s a lot of time spent on something that, in my experience, is hardly ever needed.
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Hardly would be the operative word though, no? Better safe than sorry - and it\'s not like it takes long! :)

Einion
 
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Ritual

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Maybe DR (and you) have had bad luck a few times, then? :] Or, I\'m just so incredibly lucky that I\'ve had good luck hundreds of times in a row.

Like I mentioned above, I have tested to see if there is a difference, and to me, with how I handle the minis, I haven\'t been able to see any difference.

I usually test the surface after priming, so if there would be any problems with the surface I\'d notice before I start painting. Thus, I would not lose much time if it turns out I would have to wash a mini. I\'d just remove the primer, wash it, and re-prime it. But, so far... never had to do that.

I\'m not saying you shouldn\'t wash resin minis. That\'s completely up to you. But, I spend a lot of time preparing a mini before painting to get a smooth painting surface, and I don\'t feel up to spending more time on something that I don\'t need to do. I do know there will be problems if you have washed a mini and it\'s not completely dry before you prime it, however.

Well, enough about this... I just wanted to put my view on this matter out there. :)
 
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Dwight Fry

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As a rule if, it is from Forge World it gets scrubbed with soap and water, and sometimes a bit of baking soda.

I don\'t know if they use different materials from the rest of the world but I swear I\'ve seen primer bead off some of their unwashed castings...

I tend to rinse metal as well, many times with alcohol...
as Eionion said the results seem noticeable better
 
mickc22

mickc22

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use automotive primers, they are better and cheaper, and mostly these days, acrylic
I also quite like and get good results with the Plasti-cote range
 
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bork da basher

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hi guys my name is Alistair and i run gribbly minis, a friend of mine just pointed me in this direction so i thought i\'d post.

firstly on the topic of resin miniatures generally it\'s \"best\" to wash with warm soapy water once or twice and let them air dry before applying paint in any kind, spray or otherwise.

for my own castings however i haven\'t actually found any problem whatsoever with paint adhering to the model in anyway. i sprayed my plaguefather mini and totally forgot to wash it beforehand. i suspected i\'d be in for a hard time but nope the primer applied fine and i painted him up without issue. can\'t say i reccomend not washing resin minis but i think my casting companys uses less mould release agent in the casting process hence a less greasy mini.

secondly for assembling i don\'t find pinning to be required as resin isn\'t very heavy and even the largest pieces don\'t tend to drop off very easily. i didn\'t pin my own troll king and my 2 year old son was found playing with it without any injury to it the other week lol. sturdier stuff than it looks. if you do want to pin it just take care and use a small drill bit and you should find it not much differant than pinning plastic.

nice picture by the way i must have taken 200 of it and wasn\'t happy with virtually any of them. the whole lot of images on the site is going to get redone soon though.

now you\'ve glued it together you need to paint it . don\'t forget i\'m going to have a customers gallery page so please email your pictures to me when your done and i\'ll put them on the site. :idea:

cheers

alistair@gribbly
 
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