First Ever Mini - WIP - Tips and Pointers pls.

Thetecman

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Hello, this is my first attempt at mini painting and would like some tips as I go. I have only painted the flesh and eyes (a few times!) so far. Started with a base coat of tanned flesh with a wash of dark brown, I have then attempted to blend using gradual lighter shades working out from the shadow areas.

I welcome all pointers tips palette suggestions etc... I have read a few of the tutorials and other WIP threads and have been blown away by the quality, I realise practise is the best way to learn I just guess I want to know if I am going in the right direction.

Thanks. (Edit: Fixed Pics)

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Scipunk

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Hi and Welcome

I am having difficulty in seeing your pic. When I click on the thumbnail....it takes too long to show and then stops. May I suggest you attach your pics directly in this thread or make your pic a bit smaller so it can load quicker.

So far from what I can tell in the thumbnail and in your description....you seem to be going in the right track.

You have chosen a fun model to paint. I like the base too.

Keep it up
 
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poisonfrog

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for a first time piece i must say your off to a good start the skin tone is very warm i look forward to your progress.

oi oi
frog
 

Tin-Bucket

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Nice one mate! Are you thinking on proceeding with ginger-hair? I would suggest if possible to highlight the teeth if possible ( I have no clue how small this mini is in actuality). Is it a trollslayer? Keep up the good work mate.
 

Thetecman

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Thanks guys.

I have now fixed the pics! The base was made from a slice of pencil eraser that I "sculpted" with a modelling knife.

I am indeed going the ginger route, what would be the best palette for painting ginger hair and what would be the best colour choice for his trousers?

I would love some NMM for his axe but fear my skills are not there yet.

Thanks

Rob
 

Lyuun

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nmm, or so i find, is very challenging. if that is really your first (it looks great!!) then i'd probably wait it out a bit...
 

Thetecman

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I think you are right, anyway I have metallic paints to hand so I might as well use them. This is indeed my first Mini, I have migrated slightly from aircraft/armour modelling so am used to wielding an airbrush. Now with a young family the airbrush is tucked away and I needed a creative outlet (just a bit less smelly/messy). I have an Avatars of War Ork and a Games Workshop Chaos something to paint next.

Will update later, just not sure what part to paint next hair, trousers or weapon. Any ideas?
 

Scipunk

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That's much better on the pics....thanks

Your mini looks great...I like the tone for the skin.

As to what to paint next....I would say the trousers and jewelery, just because the hair and beard are in the way.

Are you gonna paint in the blue tattoos? A slayer ain't a slayer without the tattoos.

Can't wait for the next update.
 

Arma

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I think he's looking great. Not an easy mini first up! I would add some very light (almost white) highlights to face to really make it pop. Keep white highlights nice and thin and apply a number of layers to keep things smooth.
 

Thetecman

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Hmm tattoos, I might give it a go although I am not sure how good my freehand will turn out. I tried to do some gems on his belt tonight but they look awful so I think a repaint is in order. Base coated the trousers and pouches. Grey for the pouches I think and obviously blue strides.

Thanks for the tip on the highlights I will give it a go.

Not much of an update but here are some pics anyway.

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Mercius

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The way I paint red hair is basecoat with thinned mechrite red mixed with a bit of chaos black, was with badab black and then run my highlights from pure mechrite red up to blazing orange. I think that is also the same suggestions on the citadel layering cheat sheet you get with their foundation paint set too.

edit: I think the gems look better than you are giving credit for, of course I am limited to the picture so maybe you see something I don't, but your work is awesome so far, especially the skintone.
 

Wyrmypops

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He's looking clean and well done to me. The kind of work it can take some people years to put together. Feel good about your skills.

To critique the skin, while looking well blended, it's looking like the majority of the tonal range is in the middle, with very little darkness or brightness. A mite more contrast could make him pop more.
It's something I've found myself succumbing to. As I progress through the highlighting stages I leave too little an area before it untouched, it ends up wholly less dark than it was in my minds eye. Can often remedy that by reworking the area with some thinned inks to glaze-tint the areas we'd want a mite darker. Not applied as a wash, but controlled, just a modicum of paint of paint on the brush and applied just where we'd want it.

Slayers red hair is dyed, so whatever process you choose to paint it is gonna be appropriate. I go with whatever orange I whimsically like the look of that day, and shade it with a mix of flesh, red and brown ink. Getting it darker where the hair meets the head.
Hair is a rare good opportunity to dry-brush highlights on, but more so than even normally I'd be subtle with that technique on a slayers hair. They stick it up with pig fat, and drybrushing can all too easily make something look dry and dusty instead of appropriately slick. I tend to highlight slayers hair with the side of the brush brought up against the sides of the mohawks, letting the brush pick out the raised strands with the highlights, it's cleaner and less dusty that way. Would still finish off with a proper drybrush on the top of the mohawk though, a proper light one, and that paint coul be used to pick out the occasional prominent strand of hair down the side too.

The order of which area to paint, that's ain't something set in stone. Some people start with the face to set the tone of the mini and work out from there. Some work from the feet up. Some do metals first. It's not a bad idea to leave the areas most "outside" to later on (like the top of the hair, fingers etc), as they could be touched during painting and the paint rubbed away.

Honestly though, that's looking far too good for a first mini. Years on, you shan't get to enjoy the painful wince when someone brings out one of your early miniatures. You might want to give yourself a handicap, try finishing it off with your feet. :p
 

Thetecman

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Thanks for tips on the hair, and the kind words. I just noticed a piece of fluff on the back of his hair, photos show up everything don't they! I shall update again tonight going to finish the trousers and tweak those gems a little (still not happy with all of them). Is there a technique to painting tattoos to make it easier? I was thinking of drawing them on with a mechanical pencil first then going over them with paint followed by a very thin coat of the flesh colour, I will then go back and strengthen some of the shadows.
 

Wyrmypops

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Only things I've found with tattoos is it being prudent to know what design is going on, rather than winging it. Best to have the design sketched out first. And for it to be to scale, as you wouldn't want to intend covering a forearm with a symbol and it only covering half the area, or need to trail onto the hand or upper arm. Sketching something fiddly like a celtic band can help a lot get ones practised with the order of rendering the various swirly bits too.

Colour wise, tattoos don't stay punchy, they fade. I favour turquoise, thinned with black ink. Or Black, thinned with turquiose ink. Can deflate the darkness, especially for the occasional highlight, with added white, bone, or a light flesh tone.

/Aside: Dark turquoise is a peculiar colour we don't really see outside of faded tattoos, tis why it works so well to highlight black with as we don't look upon black highlighted with turquoise and see it as anything but black. Whereas highlights with grey or blue can end up looking like the whole is a dark grey or blue.
 

Scipunk

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For the tattoos, some people that I have seen doing this would generally trace the outline with a pencil (lightly) and then use a dark color to trace over the pencil mark to start of as a base. From there they start working with it by adding more highlight/shadowing to it in order to bring it out more. I do agree with Wyrmypops, make sure you sketch what you would like done first on a piece of paper in order to create the design desired for the model.

Here are some examples:

Sample 1
Sample 2 (I have seen this up close in real life, one of my favorites)
 

Thetecman

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Trousers are nearly done although I feel they need another dark blend to even things out a little, bracelets have been base coated ready for a gold finish. The hair has been base coated but I cant seem to get colour into all of the recesses so another touchup is needed. I am finding it very hard to get highlights onto the teeth without flooding his mouth with white, any tips there. Comments and Critique welcomed.

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Thanks

Rob
 

cheelfy

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Nice, you know what to do about the pants. For the teeth, your paint has to be diluted but you mustn't apply it on the mini like that, it won't give a good result. You have to wipe a lot the paint on your brush especially when painting little details like teeth.
 

Thetecman

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Nothing done over the weekend I am afraid, Saturday was spent watching my beloved Tottenham play Chelsea off the park at White Hart Land and Sunday was spent recovering from a very late night of celebration, just Man Utd to beat now! Haha.

Anyway I shall paint some more tonight and update later, have a good Monday folks!
 
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