Dragon for CONFRONTATIO/RAGNAROK?

[wevin]

I was wondering if any of you know if there\'s a dragon coming out for RAGNAROK! I have always been a big fan of these fire-breathing beauties and I can\'t wait to get my hands on one of them.

wevin

 

[VLRM]

Yet another Belgian! Where are you all coming up from?

About the dragon: No idea whatsoever. At the very least we\'ve seen a green of Belial, but not a hint of a dragon... Rag\'Narok has a painting of one in the cadwallon section, but that\'s all.

 

[el pimpo]

Well it says that a dragon is a very large target in the confrontation rule book, but I haven\'t seen any previews for it yet.

Guess there will be one when the elves be released. ~_^

Apperantly there will also be a Cadwallon army (they mention it in the ragnarok book.)

 

[Carolus]

Yes indeed, when the Cynwall elves are released (\"The Dragon Riders\") we will probably start seeing dragons... But it also depends whether the dragons would fall under the Enormous or Collossal category (or those other size categories mentioned in the rulebooks).

Although I would be pretty happy with slightly-smaller-but-still-bigger-than-a-troll-beasties...

Like (making my fantasy go wild, so this is NOT a Confrontation rumour, just Carolus\'s imagination):

- A Griffon warrior monk on a griffon (Mmm... Destrier + Vol sure sounds nice)
- Dirz clones riding on giant scorpions
- dwarven tanky things (those are coming, like we could see in Rag\'Narok)
- A giant

It\'s a bit like waiting for the demons to appear too... For the moment the Mid-Nors only have the little Imps (Moissonneurs), but I think we will have to wait for the Drune barbarians before we will see \'bigger demonic stuff\'...

Let\'s just hope it all comes out soon

Carolus

 

[Tuubje]

they keep making sketches for the drunes, so I guess they won\'t be far away

Anyway, I\'ll collect them and their demons for sure

 

[AAvH-Darkblade]

Originally posted by Carolus
- A Griffon warrior monk on a griffon

A very cool idea!

Darkblade

 

[AAvH-Darkblade]

Originally posted by Carolus
Yes indeed, when the Cynwall elves are released (\"The Dragon Riders\") we will probably start seeing dragons...

What\'s not to love, can\'t wait to see (or have) these.

Darkblade

 

[Tuubje]

Well one thing is for sure, If the dragons are only have as beautiful as their standard mini\'s then they would still be gorgeous

 

[Chrispy]

Sadly to say, I think the bigger stuff will be out only after a while. It was explained somewhere in Mid-Nor background that the demons inside the dwarves can\'t manifest themselves in the physical plane... yet.

When \"the gods walk the earth\" again, a lot more spiritual energy will run amok and thus they\'ll appear.

And of course, the gods WILL walk the earth! In Incantation, the rules that states how many artefacts per rank someone can have, it says \"Avatar- 7\"... Figuring Living Legends only get 3,.....

 

[el pimpo]

Well spotted... Never even saw that one.

Man I wonder what an avatar would look like... It should have big horns, a big blade and a killer growl on his face!

They won\'t be out any time soon though, ragnarok is only in it\'s infant stages and I guess they\'ll want to do more stuff for other armies. I think drunes will be next and then Daikinees, because they already have one out, and luckily he\'s on my side! lol

 

[atacam]

At the very least we\'ve seen a green of Belial

Where is this? Please I want to see it.

 

[Chrispy]

You ask, I give:

GRRRRR!

 

[kkoene]

O.....My.......Gosh!

That is awesome

 

[Carolus]

I guess that may be an old version of Belial, because if I put my Troll Noir next to a Fianna, he looks about as big... Now you are not going to tell me that someone like Belial is \'as tiny as a troll/minotaur\'?

So I am hoping dat the final version will be much bigger!

Carolus

 

[Corvus]

Wow, I\'m looking forward to it... must be one hell of a paintjob! What a challenge

 

[el pimpo]

I think he\'s big enough, he does walk a little stooped, but the fienna is about as big as his forearm...

Is he a living legend, or already an Avatar?

 

[Carolus]

Uhm... I thought Belial was a god, so it\'s even a class higher than an Avatar... Maybe this \'green version\' is one of his \'smaller pals\'

Pity there are no size comparisons with a troll/wolfen/cavalry...

Because if you look at the Troll Noir and compare it to \'normal infantry\' you will see that the Troll is really really big

But hey, we\'ll see it when he get\'s released (somewhere in the next 20 years or so...)

 

[Corvus]

How tall is this troll then? (in cm)

 

[el pimpo]

Size isn\'t everything you know, it\'s how you use it on the battlefield... lol

 

[Carolus]

I\'ll measure my (unpainted) Troll Noir this weekend, okay?

By the way, Belial, being a god, shoudl be a horrendously expensive mini (in army points)...

If you look in the \"Carnet de Voyage\", you have the cards for the Ombres/Shadows (=main opposing characters when playing Incarnation), and when you look at:

Asamon, le Formor de Dun Scaith (which is the big demon-type thingy you could see how to sculpt it in the last Ravage) has the following stats:
MOV 15
INI 5
ATT/FOR 8 - 13
DEF/RES 7 - 11
TIR n/a
PEU 9
DIS 6
Equipment : Vorpal Axe (TUE NET on all wounds to the head)
- Tueur né
- Abominable
- Charge Bestiale
- Implacable/2
- Clan des Drunes
Grande Taille/Socle de Creature
Rang: Ombre Elite Keltois
211 points...

He\'s \'but an Elite\'

While Idabaoth, Sihir of Fire has something like
MOV 15
INI 8
ATT/FOR 10 - 15
DEF/RES 8 - 12
TIR 4
PEU 10
DIS 5
Equipment : shooty thing FOR 15, range 15-30-45
- Furie Guerriere
- Enorme
- Immunity/Fire
- Vivacity
Grande taille/socle de creature
Rang : Ombre Living Legend Elementals...
287 points...

(And no, these characters have not been turned into miniatures )

But Belial should definitely be a lot more powerful, so I\'m guessing he should cost at least 500 points or something...