Derivan Minis Paints: A review.

monolith

New member
Hmm, Where to start? I posted here in june or july asking if anyone here had used these paints, to a general lack of knowledge. No biggie, I figured I\'d find them eventually, buy some, then get down to painting with them. Then my Friendly Local Games Store tells me they\'re getting them in.

First things First: Consistency of these paints is very thick, like thickened cream. I\'m a big fan of this, as it makes them in my opinion, excellent for blending. I can do blending with derivan minis and some retarder, giving me a final finish that would take 12-16 layers to complete if I were layering the paint down. All in a lot less time, making it quite a useful paint.

Pigmentation seems to be nice and dense, My blending technique requires thinning these down with anywhere between 2 and 4 parts retarder/flow medium to one part paint. I like a degree of transparency even when I\'m blending. I have only done one model using these paints and layering techniques, but even so, that did give me a fairly good effect, with a slightly less chalky finish than my GW paints. That\'s kind of odd, given that the first thing that I noticed about these paints is how Matt they dry. Very matt finish.

The range is very nice, offering some colours that GW no longer do, and at least one I\'ve not seen in any other paint line. Companion Violet is a lovely pale purple. They also have Payne\'s Grey, very very useful for military uniforms, and rorke\'s drift red, basically cadmium red. The reddest red ever.

I like these paints, and I honestly wish I had some minis painted in them to show you. I guess you could just take my word for it, but I wouldn\'t trust someone on the internet without photographic proof.
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
I don\'t doubt you! :) you can get excellent result with most paints and from how you describe them these sound really good. However are they hard to get hold of?

And you should rename the thread \"Derivan Paint\" perhaps!
 

monolith

New member
As far as I Know, they\'re only available in australia via a retail store. There may be ways to get them in other countries via this here modern internet type thingie, but I don\'t know.

The paints are actually called \"Derivan MiNiS\" It\'s kind of annoying, really.
 

QuietiManes

New member
Finally a review! I\'ve been looking/waiting for quite some time to see one from someone who wasnt selling the product. ;)

Re: Retailers-a list can be found on the Derivan Mini\'s webpage, there\'s at least a few in North America and Europe, many online as well.
 

monolith

New member
I am so not selling them it\'s not funny. I\'m flat out buying food some weeks, let alone enough derivans to paint with, let alone enough to sell the freaking things. (I think that sentence kind of makes sense)

I like them enough to change how I paint to compensate for the differences between them and GW. As my GW paints run out I\'ll probably replace them with derivans. Maybe not the metallics, as I really know GW metals now, and can get great finish from them. I don\'t know that I want to re-learn how to paint with metals, but I\'ve not got that much experience with derivan metallics

As a side note, you might want to buy some glass beads to drop into them as agitators. (A whole lot easier with these than vallejo bottles. these screw top droppers also screw onto the bottle.)
 

QuietiManes

New member
I too am in the starving artist category lately :(

How thick are the Derivan Mini Paints compared to Citadel, Vallejo and craft paints like Folk Art/Apple Barrel/Delta?
 

monolith

New member
I\'ve never used Apple Barrel paints, but Vallejos and GW I have. Derivans are thicker than both, they have a very thick consistency, almost creamy.
 

kangaroorex

New member
I bought a bunch of MiNiS from Scale Creep when they were parting with the line. Much to my regret I have only now had a chance to really work with the paints. I use a lot of the craft paints for armies and batch work so I can compare it to the minis pretty well. In comparison the apple barrel paints are very grainy when painted with. For me they require a much thicker coat to get an even finish than the Minis. When you thin the minis paints they maintain the same dense smooth flow that the thicker form does.

One note though, they do (particularly the greens) have a tendency to separate if you leave them alone for a length of time and they can fool you into thinking they are a very thin paint.

I am currently painting the Elmore "chance meeting" in the minis blues to see how they do as a set I will post the final dragon when its finished (do not hold breath, these take me a while)
 
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