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Friar
Dorks for Orks
aye post your stuff in either the work in progress forum if ya want tips as ya go or in the submision discussion forum on your finished stuff you\'ll see alot more feedback then just in the gallery.
also just from personal expierence lol most of whats posted here is \"great\" in comparision to what I can achieve so it makes it hard for me to give alot of tips I figure I\'m prob not the only one to feel this way tho if I notice something I try and point it out but I think my eye just isn\'t as fine tuned to see those sort of things as a person with alot of expierence. Also some folk are just shy bout giving tips or critiques for various reasons. lol hope that makes sense.
good luck
edit: just took a gander thru your gallery main things I would say to work on are your highlights / shadowing and just watch your brush control, if you accidently get some paint where it shouldn\'t be don\'t be afraid to touch it up. only othere thing I noticed was a couple spots on the dread I could still see some of the base coat thru the red sometimes it takes several layers (specially on a dark base) to get complete coverage. Your def on the right track just keep practicing also be sure to read thru the articles section lots of great info there Link to Articles
also just from personal expierence lol most of whats posted here is \"great\" in comparision to what I can achieve so it makes it hard for me to give alot of tips I figure I\'m prob not the only one to feel this way tho if I notice something I try and point it out but I think my eye just isn\'t as fine tuned to see those sort of things as a person with alot of expierence. Also some folk are just shy bout giving tips or critiques for various reasons. lol hope that makes sense.
good luck
edit: just took a gander thru your gallery main things I would say to work on are your highlights / shadowing and just watch your brush control, if you accidently get some paint where it shouldn\'t be don\'t be afraid to touch it up. only othere thing I noticed was a couple spots on the dread I could still see some of the base coat thru the red sometimes it takes several layers (specially on a dark base) to get complete coverage. Your def on the right track just keep practicing also be sure to read thru the articles section lots of great info there Link to Articles
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JakeSh
Guest
Thats CMoN for you. It will really humble you and is a pretty decent indication of how you truly are painting. Sorry to say, but I\'d rate your minis at like a 4. Just looking through your gallery, you lack shading and highlights, and it pretty much looks like you slapped the paint on with a rag tied to a stick. Harsh, I know, but realizing what is bad is the first step to becoming good.
That being said, I find putting something in my mini description like: \"Comments welcome and appreciated. The favor is always returned.\" will get you a lot more comments. Just make sure you do indeed comment on at least one of their minis to repay them. Also, going out and randomly commenting as much as you can will help you get more comments.
That being said, I find putting something in my mini description like: \"Comments welcome and appreciated. The favor is always returned.\" will get you a lot more comments. Just make sure you do indeed comment on at least one of their minis to repay them. Also, going out and randomly commenting as much as you can will help you get more comments.
Friar
Dorks for Orks
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hope they help, just remember take your time, practice and don\'t try too much at once clean up your painting a lil bit then work on some basic shading highlighting then once your comfortable gettin basic contrast work then move on to trying for super smooth blends and what not. Good Luck!
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hope they help, just remember take your time, practice and don\'t try too much at once clean up your painting a lil bit then work on some basic shading highlighting then once your comfortable gettin basic contrast work then move on to trying for super smooth blends and what not. Good Luck!
Don\'t give up! As Jakesh already said, there are so many Minis posted here, that you hardly get a comment with having Minis somewhere around tabletop quality.
Good thing is, you\'re at the right place to improve. Friar already posted some really good beginner and even mediate level painting articles.
Best way to improve is to read the articles/Minis/WIP forums here and ask things you\'d like to know. Don\'t be to hard with yourself, it takes time. If you find something interesting try it at small Minis or even on paper first. Going on an SM Dreadnought sure takes some guts, but I think its better to start with smaller projects.
Other thing is. Good material makes good paintings. A good brush can really improve your painting. Don\'t know what you used for your current minis...!?
Also its they way you handle your \"hardware\". Clean them with love and they will be your best friends for a long time. You\'ll see you will become better!
And anyway welcome on CMON!
Good thing is, you\'re at the right place to improve. Friar already posted some really good beginner and even mediate level painting articles.
Best way to improve is to read the articles/Minis/WIP forums here and ask things you\'d like to know. Don\'t be to hard with yourself, it takes time. If you find something interesting try it at small Minis or even on paper first. Going on an SM Dreadnought sure takes some guts, but I think its better to start with smaller projects.
Other thing is. Good material makes good paintings. A good brush can really improve your painting. Don\'t know what you used for your current minis...!?
Also its they way you handle your \"hardware\". Clean them with love and they will be your best friends for a long time. You\'ll see you will become better!
And anyway welcome on CMON!
okay here is the new version, thanks for all the tips and advice.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/180465
http://www.coolminiornot.com/180465
Aliengod3
New member
The same thing happens to me. I assume it happens to everybody. I know that sometimes when I vote on a picture, and the person who posts the pic wants feedback, I may not know what to say. Personally I do not like to leave comments unless I can be of some help. It is not always easy to leave constructive feedback on a mini when one does not necessarily know how it could be made better.
Posting in the forums helps. One thing I do in order to get people to leave feedback about my WIP minis in the forums is I send messages to people, whose painting I have much respect for, and ask them if they can suggest anything that can improve my minis. If people are not leaving comments about your minis is does not hurt to send them messages asking them to leave comments. The CMON community is very supportive and they will be more than happy to leave feedback about your work. You just have to let them know there is something you wish them to look at because not all people on this site come to the forums regularly. I have been on this site for about 2 years and I just started coming to the forums about a week ago.
Posting in the forums helps. One thing I do in order to get people to leave feedback about my WIP minis in the forums is I send messages to people, whose painting I have much respect for, and ask them if they can suggest anything that can improve my minis. If people are not leaving comments about your minis is does not hurt to send them messages asking them to leave comments. The CMON community is very supportive and they will be more than happy to leave feedback about your work. You just have to let them know there is something you wish them to look at because not all people on this site come to the forums regularly. I have been on this site for about 2 years and I just started coming to the forums about a week ago.
Hmm, I guess you have to go a few steps back and then start again.
I think you try to do some effects that you are not enough skilled for. At least for now.
For example the blood and the damage effect. Don\'t get me wrong, it simply doesn\'t work for me. So my advice would be to try to make a clean dreadnought without to much blood or damage on it. You can attach the effects later if you want.
Well lets start with the metallics. When I started to do minis there was one technique I really got to get good effects on metallics. Well its not the fine high technique most people use here, but it will do the job for Beginners. Namely: DRYBRUSHING. Cause I think you really should get more feeling for paints, so lets start with the \"dry\" techinques. At least I got feeling for paints with that technique...
I would do it like this on your mini. Paint the autocannon, the claws and the the legs( Well the metallic parts not the armor plate) black again. Then you take some boltgun metal (if you just have this shiny metal you used try to add some black to it!) and drybrush it. Here\'s an article on the technique:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TnT087_Drybrushing_Bamford/TnT087.htm
Well its not for GW Minis but it explains the technique in nice pictures. Perhaps you can find some better article on it.
Afterwards you can post some picture here again or go to the WIP area in the forums.
I think you try to do some effects that you are not enough skilled for. At least for now.
For example the blood and the damage effect. Don\'t get me wrong, it simply doesn\'t work for me. So my advice would be to try to make a clean dreadnought without to much blood or damage on it. You can attach the effects later if you want.
Well lets start with the metallics. When I started to do minis there was one technique I really got to get good effects on metallics. Well its not the fine high technique most people use here, but it will do the job for Beginners. Namely: DRYBRUSHING. Cause I think you really should get more feeling for paints, so lets start with the \"dry\" techinques. At least I got feeling for paints with that technique...
I would do it like this on your mini. Paint the autocannon, the claws and the the legs( Well the metallic parts not the armor plate) black again. Then you take some boltgun metal (if you just have this shiny metal you used try to add some black to it!) and drybrush it. Here\'s an article on the technique:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TnT087_Drybrushing_Bamford/TnT087.htm
Well its not for GW Minis but it explains the technique in nice pictures. Perhaps you can find some better article on it.
Afterwards you can post some picture here again or go to the WIP area in the forums.
Oh there sould be a html at the end of the link..sorry: Here\'s a working link Drybrushing:
there sould be a html at the end of the link..sorry: Here\'s a working link Drybrushing: The re-post of your Dreddy is looking better than the first and there has been a bit of improvement. Keep going and do not get discouraged as unfortunately it is not something you are going to get straight away. Any of the well known names in mini painting will tell you the hours and practice they have put into improving their craft. Searching for, and reading as many mini painting tutorials will only serve to improve what you do. You might even find an article that makes sense of it all and it just clicks into place for you.
As for my two cents of advice....I would suggest leaving a miniature like a dreadnought until you had the basics of brush control and paint application down well. They are such big minis and can be a little overwhelming for a beginner. The way around this and not getting discouraged would be to paint it part by part so you have a smaller area to concentrate on at any one time.
If you have trouble applying an even coat for colours like the red I would suggest getting the Mechrite red from GW Foundation range. It will cut down on the need for as many coats to cover. Even if you do not like the exact colour like me you can use it as a base to then apply the red of your choice over.Even as a beginner it may help for you to water your paints down just a touch. Two or three smooth thin coats are better than one thick one with brushmarks. Make sure each of your coats are dry before adding the next. Drybrushing the metal parts first as has been explained is a good way to go to. Get drybrushing down first then go onto other techniques when you have learnt paint and highlight control.
Something as simple as making sure you tidy up around painted areas will give you much improvement. If you are not confident enough to apply paint directly to the parts that need to be tidied up, in most instances you can take a short cut and apply a wash. Especially if the area you need to neaten up is raised from the rest. For example around the instrumentation and scrolls etc you could apply a darker wash of ink or watered down paint ( a bit like milk) to the recess around the raised area. It will clean up some of the stray paint for you.
Make sure that things like the scroll on the right arm is finished as unpainted areas will detract from the overall look of it too. Maybe apply a darker to mid yellowish brown ( i am not sure what paints you use) and then go over it with a bleached bone/ sandy coloured paint will give you a nice simple scroll.
For now forget about fancy stuff such as battle damage....it is wise advice that has already been given to you.....and concentrate on getting nice smooth even coverage and neat paint control. Battle damage can be added at a later date when you have the techniques down well.
As I have prattled on enough my last piece of advice is that you cannot perform miracles without the right tools, brushes and paints. Make sure you have some nice mid range brushes to work with. When you are more confident then go for some really good ones. Anything with a true hair brush will serve you well. Kolinsky sable is a good natural hair type of brush to consider.
Oh yeah....and remember to work from the inside out when you are able to do so. It will decrease the need to have to go back and touch up so much paint.
I hope even a small portion of this is helpful in some way.
Cheers
JO
As for my two cents of advice....I would suggest leaving a miniature like a dreadnought until you had the basics of brush control and paint application down well. They are such big minis and can be a little overwhelming for a beginner. The way around this and not getting discouraged would be to paint it part by part so you have a smaller area to concentrate on at any one time.
If you have trouble applying an even coat for colours like the red I would suggest getting the Mechrite red from GW Foundation range. It will cut down on the need for as many coats to cover. Even if you do not like the exact colour like me you can use it as a base to then apply the red of your choice over.Even as a beginner it may help for you to water your paints down just a touch. Two or three smooth thin coats are better than one thick one with brushmarks. Make sure each of your coats are dry before adding the next. Drybrushing the metal parts first as has been explained is a good way to go to. Get drybrushing down first then go onto other techniques when you have learnt paint and highlight control.
Something as simple as making sure you tidy up around painted areas will give you much improvement. If you are not confident enough to apply paint directly to the parts that need to be tidied up, in most instances you can take a short cut and apply a wash. Especially if the area you need to neaten up is raised from the rest. For example around the instrumentation and scrolls etc you could apply a darker wash of ink or watered down paint ( a bit like milk) to the recess around the raised area. It will clean up some of the stray paint for you.
Make sure that things like the scroll on the right arm is finished as unpainted areas will detract from the overall look of it too. Maybe apply a darker to mid yellowish brown ( i am not sure what paints you use) and then go over it with a bleached bone/ sandy coloured paint will give you a nice simple scroll.
For now forget about fancy stuff such as battle damage....it is wise advice that has already been given to you.....and concentrate on getting nice smooth even coverage and neat paint control. Battle damage can be added at a later date when you have the techniques down well.
As I have prattled on enough my last piece of advice is that you cannot perform miracles without the right tools, brushes and paints. Make sure you have some nice mid range brushes to work with. When you are more confident then go for some really good ones. Anything with a true hair brush will serve you well. Kolinsky sable is a good natural hair type of brush to consider.
Oh yeah....and remember to work from the inside out when you are able to do so. It will decrease the need to have to go back and touch up so much paint.
I hope even a small portion of this is helpful in some way.
Cheers
JO
