stickboy9000
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what would be a rough price for comission work???? i have no idea
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Completely depends on the standard of the work, the size of the piece, any conversion work involved, detail of basing, etc. Can range from a few, to hundreds, even thousands of pounds. You\'ll have to be much more specific to get a realistic answer here. Take a look around the websites and galleries of commission painters to get a good idea of the rough scale.
stickboy9000
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yeah cool, what if there was no painting involved, and it was made really well, (it\'s for the scorpion wraithlord i\'ve got planned) have a look and tell me what you think.
Sorry, not following you. Do you mean you have a plan and want someone to make it for you? If so where can we have a look?
EDIT - OK, it\'s in the WIP forums, I found it. Well do you want the person to make it as a full sculpt for you or do a conversion. Getting someone to do it as a conversion would certainly work out cheaper.
EDIT - OK, it\'s in the WIP forums, I found it. Well do you want the person to make it as a full sculpt for you or do a conversion. Getting someone to do it as a conversion would certainly work out cheaper.
stickboy9000
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sorry not being clear. someone wants to comission me to make it. they don\'t want it painted just the model. just don\'t know what to charge???
Well I don\'t know your standard, and have to say I\'ve never actually done commission work myself. But, as it\'s a first commission, and you are doing a conversion, about £3 an hour seems reasonable to me. You could move this price up once you\'ve proved yourself.
I\'d guess about 8-10 hours work on it at most, and a minimal cost for materials to do it with once you have the Wraithlord kit, so between £27 and £33 seems a fairly good sort of upper limit to me.
I\'d guess about 8-10 hours work on it at most, and a minimal cost for materials to do it with once you have the Wraithlord kit, so between £27 and £33 seems a fairly good sort of upper limit to me.
generulpoleaxe
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that\'s less than minimum wage mate (almost half in fact)
i would do the conversion and put it on ebay with a link on cmon through the gallerys, you will get far more than that.
I\'m well aware that it\'s less than minimum wage and very little cash compared to if he was actually doing a job.
The thing is I see that Automaton, who is in the top 25 artists on CMON and very much established, has an estimated rate of just under £5 an hour (going by current conversion rates) si I don\'t think £3 is too ridiculous a suggestion for a first commission.
If you add on the £25 that the kit costs you\'d need to get £58 for the conversion in order to crack the upper limits of the scale I put. That isn\'t necessarily going to be terribly easy for an unpainted conversion. Also, I\'m assuming that the concept sketch in the WIP thread is by the person who wants it made, so that would add other issues as far as eBay selling goes.
I\'m just trying to be realistic based on the info at hand. If you think you can charge more for it stickboy then by all means do! Why not ask the person what they are willing to pay?
The thing is I see that Automaton, who is in the top 25 artists on CMON and very much established, has an estimated rate of just under £5 an hour (going by current conversion rates) si I don\'t think £3 is too ridiculous a suggestion for a first commission.
If you add on the £25 that the kit costs you\'d need to get £58 for the conversion in order to crack the upper limits of the scale I put. That isn\'t necessarily going to be terribly easy for an unpainted conversion. Also, I\'m assuming that the concept sketch in the WIP thread is by the person who wants it made, so that would add other issues as far as eBay selling goes.
I\'m just trying to be realistic based on the info at hand. If you think you can charge more for it stickboy then by all means do! Why not ask the person what they are willing to pay?
generulpoleaxe
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what costs a pound in england costs a dollar in australia.
so working of the exchange rate is silly.
(you don\'t take into consideration what people in low payed jobs do in america when you work a similar job in england!)
also, wraith lords with basic conversions or craptastic paint jobs have gone for over £80 on fleabay.
not having a go mate, just pointing out some common sense facts.
so working of the exchange rate is silly.
(you don\'t take into consideration what people in low payed jobs do in america when you work a similar job in england!)
also, wraith lords with basic conversions or craptastic paint jobs have gone for over £80 on fleabay.
not having a go mate, just pointing out some common sense facts.
It doesn\'t matter if it is less than the minimum wage..you are not employing him, you are commissioning him. The sculptor is, to all intents and purposes. self-employed.
And since when did living self-employed artists earn anywhere near what might be considered as a \'minimum wage\'???
And since when did living self-employed artists earn anywhere near what might be considered as a \'minimum wage\'???
generulpoleaxe
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there are a lot who can pay off mortages, you can\'t do that on minimum pay.
and encouraging people to work for peanuts doesn\'t do anybody any good, except for asian sweat shops.
and encouraging people to work for peanuts doesn\'t do anybody any good, except for asian sweat shops.
Rigged4Mini
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You have nothing in your gallery.. Put up a figure you have made and people will tell you how much they want to pay for it..then you will know what you are worth.
stickboy9000
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the pic of the scorpion wraithlod is mine. the fella asked when i was going to make it because he wanted to comission me to do it. (i\'m planning on doing all of the aspect warriors as a wraith, and sell the whole lot as a single batch)
i thought 50 quid would be about right
i thought 50 quid would be about right
darkartminiatures
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As a general rule i would say that commissioned work should cost more than an ebay auction. Chris is right, it doesn\'t help other folk in this business if they undercharge themselves and at the same time help drop the overall price of the market. We all love what we do but lets all get paid what we deserve. It just seams that at the moment folk are willing to work for nothing. 
Of course this is all subject to your standards but since you have obtained a commission this tells me that you ain\'t half bad at what you do. Don\'t undercharge yourself. I\'ve fallen for that many time when I\'ve been interested in a project that someone wanted me to do. There\'s only one winner in that game and it won\'t be you...something to remember. My two pennys
Of course this is all subject to your standards but since you have obtained a commission this tells me that you ain\'t half bad at what you do. Don\'t undercharge yourself. I\'ve fallen for that many time when I\'ve been interested in a project that someone wanted me to do. There\'s only one winner in that game and it won\'t be you...something to remember. My two pennys
Dragon Forge Design
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Well unfortunately there is no \"Big Book Of conversion Rates and what to charge for painted figures\" that I know of so there is no way to ask another person what one should charge for something. You charge for it what you feel your time is worth and hope the customer agrees with you. One person may feel their time is worth 10 bucks as they are like hey I just like doing this and Im not in it for the cash.. another person might feel the opposite and say hey I need to pay rent and my rate for that conversion is $XXX dollars because Im charging \"$ X\" times how ever many hours the job takes to do.
I do this type of thing for a living and I get aslked all the time how much to make someones grand idea into a miniatures. Sometimes its nothing more than a simple arm/weapon or head swap and another its a full bore 40+ hour resulpt total conversion in which Im going to ask hundreds of dollars for. Some people will pay, most wont as they have no concept of what a persons time is worth.
My only advice is charge what YOU feel your time is worth and see what happens.
I do this type of thing for a living and I get aslked all the time how much to make someones grand idea into a miniatures. Sometimes its nothing more than a simple arm/weapon or head swap and another its a full bore 40+ hour resulpt total conversion in which Im going to ask hundreds of dollars for. Some people will pay, most wont as they have no concept of what a persons time is worth.
My only advice is charge what YOU feel your time is worth and see what happens.
I\'m the eternal pessimist so I\'m never going to tell someone to reach for the stars! lol It does mean I\'m rarely disapointed though.
If you think you can get 50 notes, and believe that is a reasonable price for your time then by all means charge that and adjust it next time if you feel the need.
If you think you can get 50 notes, and believe that is a reasonable price for your time then by all means charge that and adjust it next time if you feel the need.
generulpoleaxe
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you said it so much better than what i did.
i\'m too much like a bull in a china shop lol
