Coat D\'arms devotees wanted...

[Verm1s]

... to rattle on about Coat D\'arms paints. Specifically, the colours in the fantasy range that GW doesn\'t produce versions of, or doesn\'t produce any more.
I\'m curious, but I can\'t check them out in person without actually buying them, and it\'d take some work fiddling with my monitor to make online swatches even resemble the colours I already have (and even then...). In the meantime I want to see if I can squeeze a few basic descriptions or comparisons out of people.
I have a feeling responses will be sparse, but oh well.

 

[TAB Studio]

Check with Einion he knows more about paint then most peeps and he is a very noe person to boot. I have never seen or tried them

 

[breadhead]

Coat D\'arms are the same as the original GW paints aren\'t they?
The ones that came in the old flip top bottles that never ever dried out, I think that after 10+ years I still have some of those that are still workable.

I have often thought about buying some just because I have such good feelings about those old paints

 

[Ritual]

AFAIK, it is the same paint as GW sold as Citadel Colour back then...

 

[Verm1s]

Sorry, I should have said - I know they\'re the old GW colours. I have a few and I\'m very pleased with them. The ones I\'m curious about are the old old GW colours - they ones they don\'t produce anymore, and the ones they didn\'t produce. Emerald green, deadly nightshade, nauseous blue, etc.

I would just buy them (and probably will, anyway), but I\'m also replacing most of my Citadel and Vallejo paints with Miniature paints. That range doesn\'t fully correspond to the typical Citadel/VGC/CD\'A range, and I\'ll use CD\'A to fill any gaps; but I\'m clueless if any of the non-corresponding CD\'A paints correspond with the non-corresponding MPs, if you get my drift. Little point in buying two new pots of the same colour, or as close as makes no difference.

I\'m not asking for a minute comparison of those ranges: more of a quick description of the \'odd\' CD\'A colours compared to similar \'standard\' colours. How nauseous blue looks beside ultramarines or regal blue, or their CD\'A/VGC equivalents, for instance.

Thanks, though.

 

[breadhead]

I just had a quick look and I have hideous blue, festering blue and emerald green.

The blues are mid way between the grey blues like Shadow Grey and Space Wolves grey and the true blues like Regal and Ultramarine blue.

Emerald green is pretty bright but I don\'t really have any greens I can compare it to
From memory I would say it\'s brighter than snot green but my memory can be pretty shocking sometimes.

 

[Verm1s]

Thanks Breadhead. Just what I\'m looking for.

 

[Yetie]

Originally posted by breadhead
10+ years I still have some of those that are still workable.

I\'ve had some for around the same amount of time and there still going strong the onyl thing that has stoped em is me finishing the pot . I\'d love some Coat D\'arms paints just to see what there like

 

[Thunderhawker]

I know I have some in a box somewhere though I expect they are most likely useless...

 

[Wren]

There\'s an interesting tool called the Color Match that someone has put a lot of great work into. He has scanned swatches of all kinds of paint. It allows you to select a paint line and then compare paints from it to other paints for the closest matches. So you could look at the Coat D\'Arms paints you aren\'t familiar with and see what the closest matches of colours you are familiar with are, and then see if it\'s different enough to buy. Since it\'s comparing like to like directly on the computer screen, slight variations in your monitor shouldn\'t matter too much in determining how similar or dissimilar one of the colours on the screen is to another sort of thing.

 

[Verm1s]

Thanks Wren. Although, using it to test Citadel against Gamecraft MPs (as I\'ve been doing IRL), I can\'t say I agree with many of the comparisons. When I can get any.

 

[Joe Kutz]

One of the problems I am having with both those lines is that although the manufacturers say onething - they do not always work like they should.

Gamecraft are based on the old Partha lines and when I contacted them they stated that they matched the Partha paints exactly. This has turned out to not be the case as I have recently found out (managed to get a few bottles shipped across the pond for comparison).

Along the same lines I have three seperate bottles of one color of Coat-d-Arms paints...and none of them are the same. They are good paints, they just don\'t seem to be very consistant with their paint\'s colors.

Right now I am working on getting a hold of multiple paint samples with many of the lines - but that takes a bit of time.

 

[Jericho]

It\'s true, some of the older Citadel/Coat D\'arms paints seem to have variation. Back in the day, before GW switched suppliers, you could tell which Ultramarines I painted first because they were a different shade of blue from the rest.

 

[Verm1s]

Originally posted by Joe Kutz
Gamecraft are based on the old Partha lines and when I contacted them they stated that they matched the Partha paints exactly. This has turned out to not be the case as I have recently found out.

I wasn\'t aware of that. Thanks. Although Partha paints were a bit before my time.
I\'m not so discouraged though, thanks to that, and the fact that I have few problems with almost fully switching from the fairly different Citadel range.
Also, I\'ve heard of CdA\'s inconsistency, and I\'ll keep it in mind. I don\'t know if I mind so much, as my paints seem to stretch well (I have years-old Citadel screw tops that are still good), and I don\'t have plans for any large, uniformed armies.

Right now I am working on getting a hold of multiple paint samples with many of the lines - but that takes a bit of time.

I\'d be interested to hear any opinions, when you have everything gathered together.

I\'ve just ordered the last batch of Gamecraft paints, so I should have the complete range (barring inks [ptooie] and one or two strange metallics). Expect a convoluted write-up soon. Also, since that last order was less than expected, I shelled out for a couple of \'odd\' CdA paints too. I know I asked for help here, and it\'s appreciated, but sometimes you can\'t resist seeing stuff first-hand.