Chapterhouse Studios files motion to dismiss

Chern Ann

Only when they're green
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=13751

In a nutshell, Chapterhouse is demanding more information regarding the alleged copyright infringments.

Very interesting thread, and in my opinion very good analysis by weeble. GW may have to fight this to conclusion on the basis of a few products infringing, rather than Chapterhouse Studios' entire product line.

However, the main point of the analysis, which I agree with, is that GW was not expecting a fight against an opponent with an unlimited legal fund (which Chapterhouse has secured); it seems suggestive that this is the case due to the vague and overreaching nature of the original claim... i.e. under normal circumstances, an opening move like this strives to drive up legal costs by forcing a lot of back and forth to wring out the details of the complaint, which is only a good strategy if you have more money for lawyers than your opponent. This doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

So, due to this unexpected turn of events, GW is in quite a bad position; its PR / legal team has created a significant amount of FUD ("Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt") over the years around its IP, which is an asset in itself and probably cost a lot to build. If I were a current investor I would be concerned about:

1. How the company is spending cash on this litigation, which frankly has very little upside beyond maintaining the "FUD Cloak", rather than building traditional real value (such as new miniatures, tools etc), especially when it does not have a strong cash position;
2. What happens if it loses, or secures only a Pyrrhic victory (e.g. Chapterhouse is only found liable for some minor trademark infringements, which it has already corrected). -> This will open the floodgates, and without sufficient cash to sue everyone it will be a major problem.

In their position, a secret settlement that basically has them dropping everything quietly would work out the best, although that depends on whether Chapterhouse would accept it. Even if Chapterhouse Studios goes out of business, since they were never really a competitor there is absolutely no upside to this case beyond patching the FUD Cloak; GW should escape from this situation if they can.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
I'm not really anti-GW, but I am sickened by at least what appears to be Legal bullying.

Add to the things you've said, I think the most damage to GW has been self-inflicted. Their corporate image has taken a huge blow because of their behavior.

I fully understand the right and the need they'd have protect their properties, but by steering their ship towards every possible tiny threat, I think they've lost their way.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
I'm not really anti-GW, but I am sickened by at least what appears to be Legal bullying.

Add to the things you've said, I think the most damage to GW has been self-inflicted. Their corporate image has taken a huge blow because of their behavior.

I fully understand the right and the need they'd have protect their properties, but by steering their ship towards every possible tiny threat, I think they've lost their way.
My thoughts in a nutshell.
Spot on Jim.
 

Master of fact

New member
I don't hate GW but they do bully smaller company's. This could be very entertaining!

If there was somewhere i could show support Nick i would!
 

Tabris_

New member
I'm not an "enemy of GW" but i'm an enemy of their IP policy and i can safely say that today Chapterhouse Studios stands for a large segment of the miniature market right now, it's only sad i'm so far from the UK and can't do much to support them. If Chapterhouse wins it's going to be a major victory for all the hobby.
 

Mr.S.Marbo

New member
I'm not really anti-GW, but I am sickened by at least what appears to be Legal bullying.

I haven't heard about this case until now, but I am not surprised at all that GW engages in this sort of thing. It's what corporations do and it's very common. The bigger they are the more they push their weight around.

An example is a small construction company I know of that did work for a very large construction corporation. It was a huge contract basically so big that it was using nearly all the small companies assets and staff. The big corporation knew that their contract must have been massive and vital to cash flow of the small company simply due to the size of the contract compared to the size of the small company. So what did they do when the first part of the work was completed successfully? They scoured the contract for any sort of get out clause, found that the small company didn't follow a minor term and withheld payment knowing it would crush the smaller company.

This caused cash flow problems for the small company who then couldn't pay it's suppliers which meant it couldn't do the second part of the larger companies contract and the larger company is now looking to extract penalties from the small company for not going ahead with the second part even though it caused it! The small company has been told that in court it would win the dispute and get payment (which the big corporation knows full well), but the big company will stall as long as possible to crush them and gain the upper hand. I think people would be surprised at what corporations continually engage in that doesn't add value to our lives but simply serves to increase their power and profits by using their weight to crush small competitors.
 

Chern Ann

Only when they're green
I haven't heard about this case until now, but I am not surprised at all that GW engages in this sort of thing. It's what corporations do and it's very common. The bigger they are the more they push their weight around.

An example is a small construction company I know of that did work for a very large construction corporation. It was a huge contract basically so big that it was using nearly all the small companies assets and staff. The big corporation knew that their contract must have been massive and vital to cash flow of the small company simply due to the size of the contract compared to the size of the small company. So what did they do when the first part of the work was completed successfully? They scoured the contract for any sort of get out clause, found that the small company didn't follow a minor term and withheld payment knowing it would crush the smaller company.

This caused cash flow problems for the small company who then couldn't pay it's suppliers which meant it couldn't do the second part of the larger companies contract and the larger company is now looking to extract penalties from the small company for not going ahead with the second part even though it caused it! The small company has been told that in court it would win the dispute and get payment (which the big corporation knows full well), but the big company will stall as long as possible to crush them and gain the upper hand. I think people would be surprised at what corporations continually engage in that doesn't add value to our lives but simply serves to increase their power and profits by using their weight to crush small competitors.

This is why, if you ever run your own company or decide to buy one/invest in one etc, you need to look carefully at their customer list. If a company's business is more than 20% one customer, they are basically a subsidiary that can be laid off rather than a supplier. We were recently offered a chance to buy a company within this industry but discovered that almost 100% of their business was through one distributor. If this distributor, for any reason, stopped ordering (e.g. cashflow issues, didn't like the new owners, product not selling through as well as before), the past excellent performance would have been completely worthless, effectively having to begin marketing again from scratch. We passed.
 
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