Can't decide on a paint set.

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Patyrn

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I'm going back and forth between this:

http://www.ccgarmory.com/masepacoset.html +
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/reaper-high-density-paint-set-1-newarrival.html +
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/reaper-high-density-paint-set-2-newarrival.html
+ The new GW washes

And the new GW range set from TheWarStore for $400.

The reaper set will get me a ton more paint, already in dropper bottles (which I prefer).

I'll end up paying more for the reaper set though. More paint per dollar, but still paying more.

I'm not sure I really need that much variety. I mostly paint tabletop quality these days, so having one nice looking brown with its shade and highlight (For example) is enough.

Thoughts?
 
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Niranth

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My painting skills are up to a far away table top, so YMMV. I started with Vallejo, have Reaper MS and the old GW set (with dropper bottles from US Plastic). I usually go to the Reaper first except for washes. The Vallejo separates a little fast on me and the GW behaves differently.

On the other hand, one of the master painters here prefers the GW paints, I have yet to hear Tommy Soule's take on the new stuff.
 
kathrynloch

kathrynloch

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Niranth said:
My painting skills are up to a far away table top, so YMMV. I started with Vallejo, have Reaper MS and the old GW set (with dropper bottles from US Plastic). I usually go to the Reaper first except for washes. The Vallejo separates a little fast on me and the GW behaves differently.

On the other hand, one of the master painters here prefers the GW paints, I have yet to hear Tommy Soule's take on the new stuff.
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hehehe...ditto for me, Niranth. I started GW, went to Vallejo and am now moving toward Reaper. I just got the Reaper paints this month and I really like the coverage and consistency. Plus, since I live in Texas, I order straight from the factory and get them in two days. ;)
 
Tyrannus Libris

Tyrannus Libris

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I started painting using GW paints and though I liked the colors and coverage of the paints I really really didn't like how fast they would dry out in those hex bottles. After a certain amount of time I was introduced to Reaper and really have stuck with that range. The triad system was easy for me to understand as I was a beginner and the bottles with the addition of an agitator were much better. Since then I have tried Vallejo and while there are some differences I think they have potential. As many have already said its a preference thing and trial and error will teach you more than going all in for a range I think.
 
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Patyrn

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Decided on the GW stuff after really liking it at the store. I really think I'd be overwhelmed by shear quantity of color with the larger reaper set.
 
AndyG

AndyG

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Never saw the need to buy the entire set you'll have colours sitting there you will never ever use.

For me

White, black (lots of both) dark brown,yellowy brown, tan, dark red,red light, red, orange, yellow, bright yellow, dark blue, light blue ,turquoise,purple, plum purple, grey, light grey, dark green, light green,yellowy green,dark flesh, ruddy flesh, light flesh, off white, electric blue, and then a selection of washes black, dark brown, sepia, dark green, and red,dark blue. Put the general names rather than specific company derived names.

Don't realy need all those just means you don't need to blend quite as much.

About 30 pots would I think do you fine; does anyone realy honestly use more on a regular basis? Not included metals cause I think they are poo!
 
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MrPickles

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Tyrannus Libris said:
I started painting using GW paints and though I liked the colors and coverage of the paints I really really didn't like how fast they would dry out in those hex bottles. After a certain amount of time I was introduced to Reaper and really have stuck with that range. The triad system was easy for me to understand as I was a beginner and the bottles with the addition of an agitator were much better. Since then I have tried Vallejo and while there are some differences I think they have potential. As many have already said its a preference thing and trial and error will teach you more than going all in for a range I think.
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hex pots have been gone for over a year now - probably closer to 2. so you got old stock.

and yes those hex pots were fricken CRAP. it would dry out so fast. luckily their pot design seems to be decent enough now.
 
uglybug

uglybug

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What are you painting? If you are just planning on buying 1 or 2 GW armies just buy for those armies. If you are painting stuff for other people or doing a lot of individual models then maybe you could justify a large set purpose.
 
Tyrannus Libris

Tyrannus Libris

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MrPickles said:
hex pots have been gone for over a year now - probably closer to 2. so you got old stock.

and yes those hex pots were fricken CRAP. it would dry out so fast. luckily their pot design seems to be decent enough now.
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My only worry about my paint now is that it is getting old. Most of what I have is a couple year old Reaper Master Series and Vallejo paints. I would dread having to replace it all. How long does this stuff usually stay good for, if anyone knows.
 
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Patyrn

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What are you painting? If you are just planning on buying 1 or 2 GW armies just buy for those armies. If you are painting stuff for other people or doing a lot of individual models then maybe you could justify a large set purpose.
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I paint a little bit of everything. To me a full set is worth it so no matter what I need, I already have it.
 
MAXXxxx

MAXXxxx

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Patyrn said:
To me a full set is worth it so no matter what I need, I already have it.
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in that case why not buy both? :p

but really, as others have said it's better to buy the paints you'll need, meaning all the commonly used base colors from the company you like and all the extra colors you like.

When I started about 5 years ago I bought the VGC set with 72 colors, Even today I'm pretty sure there are colors I've never used(while using the Xth bottle of some other color). So thinking about it now it wasn't a good decision, it would have been better to pick up the colors as I need them.


Tyrannus Libris : it depends on the pots, environment, how you use it, but:
- I know people who still have the old citadel paints from the 90'-s (so about 15-20 year old paints) and they are still working
- I have some colors from when I started (the mentioned not-really-used VGC ones) and they are still ok too.
 
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Ordo Septenarius

Ordo Septenarius

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Go for Reaper. The HD paints simply can't be beat for smooth coverage, even when thinned incredibly. I, too, use a variety of the GW washes, but go get the Reaper MS and some good HD from their line.
 
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Jbickley00

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Ok, three things about full sets.
1. Consider the foundry paints as well, they are fantastic.
2. Reaper ms and foundry build around the idea of triads- so each color is three colors: a base, a shadow, and a highlight. You don't always need three paints for every color as you can mix you own shadows and highlights.
3. A lot of colors are closely related, having only a slight difference. This is particularly true of browns and greens. You won't use every green in the set. So you may be better off building a palette out of colors you use. Sure it's nice to have every tool in the tool box, but most of them will not be colors you use. So it's better to think in terms of Papeete than set.
 
StillLifeMiniatures

StillLifeMiniatures

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Reaper Master Series is my favorite by far. I just recently found a great deal on a full set and jumped on it, but I will admit that I in no way need all of those colors. If you compare GW and Reaper sets, GW ends up being around .60 more per pot than Reaper. Vallejo is also a good paint, but I found it not the better deal price wise. Reaper has a "make your own set" on the website, but I'm not sure what the price breakdown is. As much as I love the Reaper paints, I've discovered that some of the best painters prefer, GW paints, P3, Vallejo, etc... and they all do amazing jobs. So I suppose you need to try a few things out. Perhaps get a couple of each brand before you buy a full set of one brand.
 
marjedi

marjedi

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I mix and match from alot of paint companies. Some do skin colors well, some do reds well, some do washes well etc. Etc.

I have hovever found that p3 and reaper seem to fit my paint style well. Only trouble is none of the paints are available in my country s all will have to be ordered online.
 
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