Breaking my Rackham Cherry?

joe hill 1

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Dear All,
Never started a thread on CMON before but I\'m curious as to peoples\' opinions on this subject. I move in a rather GW orientated world, I live in Nottingham, I used to paint for \'Eavy Metal and I seem to spend half my life smoking cigarettes and discussing the next Golden Daemon (I prefere that spelling) round at Matt Parkes\' house. Basically all my friends that are into \"The Hobby\" are or were employed by GW.
Now obviously we\'re all well aware of Rackham and I\'ve spent long hours studying the cataloges. The models are beautiful to be sure, but WTF are they?!
By this I mean when I pick up a GW model I know exactly what it is and all about the back ground. If a new race comes out, Tau for example, then there is a wealth of info on their background to refere to when starting any painting project. You know all about them, who they fight, who their allies are, where they come from and why. To me this is almost essential for any personnal project I might consider undertaking (freelance work it doesn\'t matter that much as you\'re just doing what you\'re told for the most part).
For example, before I started my Tzeentch BeastLord for Paris GD I did loads of research into Beastmen and Tzeentch (and Brian Froud as it goes). Not just looking at pictures but reading all the \'history\'.
When I look at a Rackham figure I think: \"Oooh! Pretty!\". But then realise I don\'t know the first bloody thing about it! I\'m not about to use the published colour scheme because I want to do something original, so what alternatives would the background to the race suggest? I\'d want to convert any figure I used for a proper project, but again I\'m stuck because I\'ve no idea about the background.
I\'m certainly not saying GW are therefore better, they\'ve been around for ages and published more books than I can imagine, so of course they have more source material.
What I am saying is that I REALLY want to paint some Rackham stuff and I desperately need some source material. The funny little cards you get in the packs are no where near in depth enough and every thing else I\'ve seen has been in French and not much less brief. I need a point of access into the world of Rackham.

So, to sum up here are my two qestions:

1). Where the arse can I get some in depth source material for Rackham (in English).

2). Does anyone get what I mean about needing to understand the background and \'history\' of what they\'re painting or am I being flakey?

Finally an analogy to illustrate: You catch an episode of some random show called \"Buffy The Vampire Slayer\". You\'ve never seen it before, it was really cool but you no idea WTF is going on because it has no context for you. Taking an interest you endevour to find out more. As the wealth of back story and \'history\' presents itself you realise it\'s probably the coolest thing you\'ve ever seen and you buy every season on DVD. Possibly. That might just be me. Actually that was a crap analogy but hopefull you get the idea.
Yours on and on and on, Joe
 

AlexDaKid

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Well Mr. Hill I am a rackham newb aswell and I can quite honestly say that knocking together any info on the game is hard damn work! If you\'re looking for english translations of a basic Confrontation(Rackham) History, go to my thread

\"So I\'ve spent a fortune on the Rackham website!\"

Located in the confrontation forum. There are a few very useful bits and bobs translated into english by Mosch and others explaining the very basics.

Rules can be located on the website as can the figures but I would probably get them from www.game-mart.com which is a helluva lot quicker (about the same price)

And yes I do understand about needing a background before you paint otherwise it just feels empty!

BTW welcome to posting you lurker!!:D
 

kittykat23uk

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Hi Joe,

I understand what you mean. I would suggest you first read up on the general backgrounds for the armies that you can find on the Rackham store website. Also you could get a subscription to Harbinger, as they have in each issue gone through the background and tactics of each of the factions and compared one army against another.

Then there was news in the latest edition of Harbinger that said that Rackham will be bringing out their own magazine called \"Cry Havoc\" which I believe will be like White Dwarf. This is due to be produced in English in the summer (can\'t recall when, perhaps one of the Harbinger folks can help me out here!) I think there is also a novel which is out in french only. If Confrontation continues to be a success, I guess the novels will eventually get an English release.

You could also ask on the Confrontation forum for further info, here or on Rackham\'s site.

Having said all this, you don\'t really need to take inspiration from just Rackham. Most of my inspiration for the wolfen I paint comes from White Wolf\'s Werewolf the Apocalypse game, the artwork of Ron Spencer and other (furry) sources such as Dark Natasha and Golden Wolfen. ;)

Regards

Kat
 

Gypsy

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I usually don\'t have such issues. I look at a mini and most of the time I have an image in my head of what it\'s going to look like.
And if I wanted to paint all my Space Wolfs red, if that\'s what I want then that\'s what I\'ll do, no matter what the fluff says.

But I can understand that it can be a problem for someone who really wants or needs to go by the book... Mmh, I think the Ragnarok book is supposed to contain backround info, but who knows when that\'ll be released. :rolleyes:
 

supervike

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sometimes yeah...

Yeah, I would usually like to know some \'story\' or fluff concerning a mini.

Not that it is necessary, but I just feel it is all part of the entire process. Having a feel for the character of the mini leads to important decisions such as color combos and skin tones...etc..

It does add to some of the fun of the painting too, to see that character come to life in your hands.

For minis I have with no such fluff, I usually imagine one. Sounds a little goofy, but it does help me feel more \'connected\' to the mini.

Hey, and welcome to the forums!!
 

joe hill 1

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But I can understand that it can be a problem for someone who really wants or needs to go by the book...

No, that\'s really not the point I was making, quite the opposite infact. If I really wanted to go by the book I\'d just copy the paint jobs on the cards. If you understand the background of a range you can do something original, but still in context and in keeping with the imagery.
It\'s not about painting Space Wolves red. If you did that they\'d just be the wrong colour! It\'s more like reading up on all the Space Marine Chapters and history, then thinking up with your own (red) chapter. In order to break the rules and get away with it you must first understand the rules as they are.
Research.
Research.
Research.
Not random colour choice.

BTW I\'m not having a pop at you Gypsy, I\'m just concerned I was unclear in my first post. Which is not so good cosidering it\'s about ten pages long......
 

Gypsy

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Originally posted by joe hill 1
If you did that they\'d just be the wrong colour!

See, that is something that doesn\'t exist for me. There are no wrong or right colours. Basically all I need to know is: Do I want this to be a hero or a villain? And then I go from there.
It\'s all in my head and fluff is not a rule but merely a guideline or not even that if I choose so.

But yeah, you want to be creative but stay true to the gaming universe. Cool. But I hope that wouldn\'t be a reason for you to downrate my red Space Wolfs. ;)

cheers
 

dave3555

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I know exactly where your commin from joe. I feel exatcly the same way. I think the fluff exists - the problem is accessing it due to the game originating and mainly being printed in french.

The articles in harbinger mag halp alot with the background so I would start with reading them if you can - but these are really only a glimpse into the background -more depth is needed and I would love to know where to access it too.

Dave
 

Taer

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Great, now Joe has me thinking about all the fluff on my stitched up dwarves, and I haven\'t even had the balls to start any of them yet! I\'m too damn afraid of clogging the superfine details with spray primer, and paint comes off to easily. Plus I want them to be really well painted, and I don\'t think my current level of skill would do them justice. Damn Rackham! Damn them to hell!!!:D

:flip::bouncy:
 
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