Article: Kingdom Death Wet Nurse - Sold out in under 24 hours
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funnymouth
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wow, that is f***ing creepy.
No Such Agency
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Wait, what?
No Such Agency
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Kitten-free addendum:
The only thing more disturbing than your revolting freako rapist monster miniature is the fact that 100 people rushed to buy one. Ugly indeed.
The only thing more disturbing than your revolting freako rapist monster miniature is the fact that 100 people rushed to buy one. Ugly indeed.
Well, rapist I think is a bit harsh. I just think it looks really stupid. The idea of a giant nursing mutant beast isn't terrible, but the execution is sophomoric. It seems like something a gradeschool kid drew in his notebook at recess when the teachers weren't around, with all his friends egging him on- "Yeah! Yeah! Draw another boob on it! More! More boobs!"
Aulbath
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I bought one, and I think it was worth it for several reasons:
- this is something out of the box, not a another Barbarian or Space Soldier in Power Armour
- I liked both the concept sketch and what I have read about the concept behind this creature (it's a harvester of sorts) - while not the most original concept in itself, it certainly is in miniature form. However, I believe releasing it without some of those conceptual ideas that explain how it works gave a wrong impression and makes some people believe this is rather juvenile and primitive (most of these things going on are going on for a reason - they follow a function for the creature and the universe it is existing in - there is more to this than pure Shock-value I think)
- This blends the styles of Berserk, Dead Space and Giger into one very different creature that actually looks like the stuff you read about Slaanesh but GW could never release, in fact this is finally a sculpt showing some of the topics that usually are left out completely in our miniature worlds - birth and sexuality beyond "look a bare-chested female"
- In the right context and with a fitting paintjob I could see this monster as a statement towards pornography or an over-sexualized society - I think with the right concept you could even turn it into something that has to do with abortions, at the same time this could just be a horrific abomination from a Gigeresque nightmare or an unspeakable horror from a Lovecraftian book. Try that with your average Space Marine.
- Making this mini is an important step for the hobby to break out of clichés and broaden the possibilties of a more varied future of vastly different sculpts than what we have now
Finally, I have read many reactions on this miniature on various boards now, and I find it somewhat interesting that you can basically sum up two opinions - one group is liking this as a statement breaking through the limitations of "wargaming miniatures" or just for being amazingly sick while a lot of people seem to be okay with war, big guns or swords and endless slaughter but this is wrong (people often digging the gore-y stuff from Helldorado though).
Personally, I find the heavy influence of fascism on the likes 40K much more disturbing than an Über-boobworm, but oh well everyone's different.
I appreciate a bold move by KINGDOM DEATH and hope there will be more like this in the future with a fitting universe to boot as well.
- this is something out of the box, not a another Barbarian or Space Soldier in Power Armour
- I liked both the concept sketch and what I have read about the concept behind this creature (it's a harvester of sorts) - while not the most original concept in itself, it certainly is in miniature form. However, I believe releasing it without some of those conceptual ideas that explain how it works gave a wrong impression and makes some people believe this is rather juvenile and primitive (most of these things going on are going on for a reason - they follow a function for the creature and the universe it is existing in - there is more to this than pure Shock-value I think)
- This blends the styles of Berserk, Dead Space and Giger into one very different creature that actually looks like the stuff you read about Slaanesh but GW could never release, in fact this is finally a sculpt showing some of the topics that usually are left out completely in our miniature worlds - birth and sexuality beyond "look a bare-chested female"
- In the right context and with a fitting paintjob I could see this monster as a statement towards pornography or an over-sexualized society - I think with the right concept you could even turn it into something that has to do with abortions, at the same time this could just be a horrific abomination from a Gigeresque nightmare or an unspeakable horror from a Lovecraftian book. Try that with your average Space Marine.
- Making this mini is an important step for the hobby to break out of clichés and broaden the possibilties of a more varied future of vastly different sculpts than what we have now
Finally, I have read many reactions on this miniature on various boards now, and I find it somewhat interesting that you can basically sum up two opinions - one group is liking this as a statement breaking through the limitations of "wargaming miniatures" or just for being amazingly sick while a lot of people seem to be okay with war, big guns or swords and endless slaughter but this is wrong (people often digging the gore-y stuff from Helldorado though).
Personally, I find the heavy influence of fascism on the likes 40K much more disturbing than an Über-boobworm, but oh well everyone's different.
I appreciate a bold move by KINGDOM DEATH and hope there will be more like this in the future with a fitting universe to boot as well.
Aulbath
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Yes, and they serve a purpose - this is basically a moving breeding & feeding-tank for offspring.
If I recall correctly, most mammals other than ape and human have several pairs of boobs depending on how much they give birth to - this creature right here is no different, and since we know nothing about the rest of the "monster-ecology" we cannot say wether it is an appropriate amount of boobs or not.
You can probably sculpt more younglings to it to make it look more "purposeful".
Let me be more specific. It is a Giger-esque alien abomination, wrinkled and writhing, with bulging veins and tentacles, covered with perfect pornstar DD jugs. It's not that the breasts are there, and it's not that I think they are purposeless. It's a big giant mutant wet-nurse beast. I get it. I don't find the subject matter objectionable. I certainly don't think it's "breaking through any limitations." It's that it just looks so stupid. It is poorly conceived. It is ugly, and not in the cool way that monsters are supposed to be ugly. It is the platypus of miniatures. It looks like what you'd get if you asked a thirteen-year-old boy, "make me a titty-beast."
Aulbath
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Well, it's far from perfect. However it is a start, I don't know maybe you have access to miniatures I have not seen yet - but this mini certainly is breaking through the limitations of wargaming minis as we have them right now - even if it's just for debates like this - when did you discuss a Warmachine or Warhammer mini beyond fugly or not? Remember the audience though, that's why there are pornstar jugs - I am pretty sure they could have taken this many a step further - but they wanna sell stuff too. I support their somewhat bold move though, and the quality of the sculpting speaks for itself - this was made by people who are serious about it (at least that is the impression I got from reading some other comments by KINGDOM DEATH elsewhere).
I do not agree on your definition of "cool" - are the Silent Hill monsters (especially part 1) cool? Are any Lovecraft-beasties cool? I don't think so. In fact, that this is "uncool" makes it interesting for me.
Also, I think this is what I would be getting if I asked Keita Amemiya to design a titty-monster. Especially the head remins me a lot about Zeiram.
And finally, if a thirteen-year old would draw something like this, I would certainly tell him to keep doing this as he might become famous some day.
No Such Agency
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Well... it certainly fills part of the definition of "art" in that it evokes a strong emotional response in the viewer! And it's certainly unique in some ways (though I think it must have been heavily inspired by some weird, weird, niche Japanese animation). I might have been a but harsh in my assessment of it, but I still couldn't see myself buying one. It's tentacliness is still a little too tentacley for my liking :/
Aliengod3
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I guess I am on the opposite spectrum on this one. I cannot stop looking at it. Very fascinating and disturbing and that is what makes it so great. It makes one want to look away but it is hard not to. There are so many disturbing details and I cannot get enough of it. I hope that KD continues to produce minis of this sort. Very Giger-esque and truly surreal.
Apparently I have a higher threshold of disturbing. I find it more comically absurd. Buffoonish. Amateurish.
Ah, no. I didn't scroll down enough apparently.
Seriously? This thing has a giant wang coming out of an anus too? Does it also have a button to press that causes it to recite the "Milk, milk, lemonade..." rhyme?
Uh... I am at a loss for words.
Ah, no. I didn't scroll down enough apparently.
Seriously? This thing has a giant wang coming out of an anus too? Does it also have a button to press that causes it to recite the "Milk, milk, lemonade..." rhyme?
Uh... I am at a loss for words.
Aulbath
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Again, we are talking miniature wargames here... don't compare it to real art, but the silly stuff we have in the hobby, like Chaos-Demons.
Blind Ghouls, a walking Tentacle and a "color out of space". Sure death-dealing bubbles strike fear into the heart of men. It reads nicely, but looking at the RAFM stuff though most of the Lovecraft monsters are looking amazingly sucky and much less inspired in the flesh. The most horrifiying thing about them is the somewhat mediocre sculpting (and I am saying that as a great fan of Lovecrafts original works).
Seriously:
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merch...RAF&Product_Code=RAF02924&Category_Code=COCMM
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merch...RAF&Product_Code=RAF02934&Category_Code=COCMM
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merch...RAF&Product_Code=RAF02948&Category_Code=COCMM
I'd pit some 60ies Dr. Who against those, it would be all silly and fun but not really "cool" in my book, anyways.
About the wang, how would it get the women pregnant to harvest babies and milk (according to the designers this creature cannot create milk of it's on, thus has to harvest and store it)?
It's built for planting it's seed and nursing the offspring. How would you go on about impregnating women? They had to stick the penis somewhere...
I believe it all boils down to personal taste (or lack thereof depending on your point of view), I can only say I wanted to support those who tried something else than beefy guys with either heavy horns, heavy armor or heavy mutations carrying massive guns or melee weapons to bash in other beefy guys on fields littered with skulls.
Honestly, it was the tentacle bit that pushed this one over for me. I rolled my eye that a monster covered in boobs selling out in under 24 hours, but i got to the the chick lying on her side in the fetal position with a massive tentical coming out the monsters ass, poised and ready to rape....... and yeah, i find this in extremely poor taste. You can argue art all you like, thats your argument to make. I just would like to have myself on record saying that as far as im concerned, its absolutely repellent..
And honestly guys, this is really nothing that should be advertised on a site that could have kids poking around looking for how to convert their orks....
And honestly guys, this is really nothing that should be advertised on a site that could have kids poking around looking for how to convert their orks....
cannon_fodder
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For me, I think it's not the sculpt per say, what's on it, but rather the entire idea. . . I get that it's supposed to be shocking, disgusting, an abomination, etc. but this thing really should have stayed an 'idea,' as the thought alone is grotesque enough...the actual embodiment takes it to a whole new level of wrong.
As far as comparing it to chaos demon, the Slannesh daemonettes are in a similar category, and completely inappropriate as well (to me at least), despite the fact that this thing is bordering on socially unacceptable in content matter (intended or not-see tentacle).
I applaud new, innovative minis, as Aulbath has said, but really, is this thing necessary? Should we applaud it simply 'because somebody went there? knowing what this thing is even makes the picture above disgusting (to me) simply because of what it 'might look like.' I dare say we've found the edge of the envelope.
As far as comparing it to chaos demon, the Slannesh daemonettes are in a similar category, and completely inappropriate as well (to me at least), despite the fact that this thing is bordering on socially unacceptable in content matter (intended or not-see tentacle).
I applaud new, innovative minis, as Aulbath has said, but really, is this thing necessary? Should we applaud it simply 'because somebody went there? knowing what this thing is even makes the picture above disgusting (to me) simply because of what it 'might look like.' I dare say we've found the edge of the envelope.
Aulbath
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Those kids are probably right now calling each other Fags on Call of Duty, they will survive this "toy".
Why? Who decides what a good idea or a bad idea is? Where does one draw the line?
Regarding Slannesh... see, Slannesh bad, Khorne doesn't even get mentioned... sex and drugs are bad, mindless slaughter, war, genocide if you will is cool and tolerable? I honestly don't get this. Besides, the Slaanesh minis are seriously lame considering the source material.
Yes, because others might follow now. Diversity is always good (even if we don't like some of the alternatives).
cannon_fodder
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One of the reasons it should have been left an idea is that, I think it would have been more creepy. I am not saying it 'was a bad idea' necessarily, but should have just been left to the imagination (and thinking about it know, the cthulhutech minis in the works (supposedly) could be either interesting or grotesque for the same reasons). Sometimes, what isn't visible is more interesting, grotesque, disturbing than what is visible. Also, I for one, would really like to have been able to followup the thought process during the creation of this one, and to know where the thoughts led to after a few days of sculpting. It could shed some light on it.
Khorne is easier to accept, as that mentality is part of world history, is visually accessible everyday top most, via news broadcasts, etc. and is based on aggression; a trait that is becoming more and more embraced in many cultures around the world (but, mostly America has been observed by me). If this wasn't true, than MMA fighting wouldn't near as popular as it is... Sexuality, on the other hand, is not as PC as Aggression at the moment. In addition, aggression is something that, while possibly detrimental, can be understood if seen by adolescents and juveniles, not so with sexuality, for the most part. As part of a hobby that routinely involves younger individuals, this always should be a consideration, but discretion should be used. If they wanted to have this as an 'adult miniature' (kabuki as well), it might have been better to only keep it on their own page, and only advertise/sell socially acceptable (yes, I acknowledge that this varies from location/country to location/country) mini and have a link to their page. At least this attempts to reign the imagery in and make it a 'niche' kind of thing.
Yes, absolutely, diversity a very good thing. But making this kind of thing main stream just seems. . . wrong (for lack of a better word). Using the argument that shocking, disturbing, and or vulgar things should be embraced because it is something different is akin to saying murders should be praised for doing something that can be viewed as controversial in the hopes that others will follow (ok, this may be a little strong, but gets my point across). It also suggests that pornography should be applauded for being different and shocking. In both cases, the actions are embraced by some while being frowned upon by others, but neither situation is considered the norm, and can be seen as taking something too far. I'm in this camp, but you don't have to be. Opinions are like toilets, most everybody has one, but they're all full of...
You can like this miniature, and paint it with care. Be my guest. But the subject matter/certain aspects of the miniature can be viewed as against morals and ethics by some, and questionable to others. And you can voice your opinion, just as I have, but neither of us can persuade the other to liking/disliking it. I don't and never will, but KD has definitely got people talking about it, so whether it is seen as a good thing or bad, it's definitely been a great marketing tool for the company (whether intended as such or not).
I apologize if I come across as standoff-ish, but this sort of thing can really set me off...partially because I have 2 kids and I would not want them being exposed to something like this (again just my opinion).
Khorne is easier to accept, as that mentality is part of world history, is visually accessible everyday top most, via news broadcasts, etc. and is based on aggression; a trait that is becoming more and more embraced in many cultures around the world (but, mostly America has been observed by me). If this wasn't true, than MMA fighting wouldn't near as popular as it is... Sexuality, on the other hand, is not as PC as Aggression at the moment. In addition, aggression is something that, while possibly detrimental, can be understood if seen by adolescents and juveniles, not so with sexuality, for the most part. As part of a hobby that routinely involves younger individuals, this always should be a consideration, but discretion should be used. If they wanted to have this as an 'adult miniature' (kabuki as well), it might have been better to only keep it on their own page, and only advertise/sell socially acceptable (yes, I acknowledge that this varies from location/country to location/country) mini and have a link to their page. At least this attempts to reign the imagery in and make it a 'niche' kind of thing.
Yes, absolutely, diversity a very good thing. But making this kind of thing main stream just seems. . . wrong (for lack of a better word). Using the argument that shocking, disturbing, and or vulgar things should be embraced because it is something different is akin to saying murders should be praised for doing something that can be viewed as controversial in the hopes that others will follow (ok, this may be a little strong, but gets my point across). It also suggests that pornography should be applauded for being different and shocking. In both cases, the actions are embraced by some while being frowned upon by others, but neither situation is considered the norm, and can be seen as taking something too far. I'm in this camp, but you don't have to be. Opinions are like toilets, most everybody has one, but they're all full of...
You can like this miniature, and paint it with care. Be my guest. But the subject matter/certain aspects of the miniature can be viewed as against morals and ethics by some, and questionable to others. And you can voice your opinion, just as I have, but neither of us can persuade the other to liking/disliking it. I don't and never will, but KD has definitely got people talking about it, so whether it is seen as a good thing or bad, it's definitely been a great marketing tool for the company (whether intended as such or not).
I apologize if I come across as standoff-ish, but this sort of thing can really set me off...partially because I have 2 kids and I would not want them being exposed to something like this (again just my opinion).
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