Airbrush purchasing advice for painting 6mm scale?

Glyn Green

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I'm a painter of 10+ years looking to buy my first airbrush shortly and wanting advice. I'd have judged from existing threads/articles/sites I've read up on so far but my usage requirements are non-standard; 95% of everything I play or paint these days is for the excellent 6mm scale Epic Armageddon game, where the models are 5 times smaller than normal 30mm W40k/Warhammer or other models. Regardless of their small size I still want to do everything to paint these models to the very best of my ability, using many and various techniques; the Forge World Model Masterclass book has inspired me to try lots of new things in concert and to up my game. I want to try doing my best to follow the same stages they do on the much smaller epic models.

For 6mm I figure I want an airbrush that is capable of putting out a extremely fine spray of droplets over a very small area with good control, yes? From my uneducated browsing around I have a general idea the better/more expensive airbrushes would be better for this (and that it's worth paying for a good one), but want to find out if there are any particularly good brands, models or features I'd want? Recommendations? I'll also need a silent or virtually silent compressor as I'll be using it in my bedroom and I have other people's bedrooms behind 4 walls/ceilings, anything excessively noisy would be a no no. Suggestions here too?

I don't know that much about the costings but would consider paying maybe one to a few hundred all-in for a good airbrush and compressor. I live in the UK and paint using GW paints, with a few Coat 'd arms paints I've not used much also. I've recently picked up a full set of the MIG weathering powder range and some black and brown oil paints I've not tried yet. Modelwise I'm looking to paint a range of armies including smooth Eldar/Tau models, a variety of camo patterns and effects on imperial/renegade tanks and aircraft, organics like Tyranids, etc. I also want to do concrete and stonework effects on an 8' by 4' epic cityscape of dense roads and buildings, so will occasionally have need to paint big things, though am much more interested in the little side of things and doing that best. I want to be able to undercoat, base coat, smoothly blend between colours and weather and stain small areas with small sprays of paint or ink (e.g. as http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33459&highlight=airbrush), blacken ends of artillery guns barrels, etc. As with 30mm I imagine it will be more useful for tanks/planes etc than infantry.

Lastly generally how easy are airbrush use/techniques to master? Could I expect to be able to be able to produce the sorts of airbrush effects in the FW book after a few weeks or months of practice? Or would it be more like years or regular use to get really good?

Thanks!
 

Einion

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For 6mm I figure I want an airbrush that is capable of putting out a extremely fine spray of droplets over a very small area with good control, yes? From my uneducated browsing around I have a general idea the better/more expensive airbrushes would be better for this (and that it's worth paying for a good one), but want to find out if there are any particularly good brands, models or features I'd want?
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I don't know that much about the costings but would consider paying maybe one to a few hundred all-in for a good airbrush and compressor.
Are you hoping to individually airbrush certain sections of a 6mm figure? If so I honestly don't think this is practical* - it's probably faster overall to do this by brush - but if you want to go ahead and try you will need a darned good airbrush with a good nozzle. The best for this might be the Paasche Turbo, but just by itself that's not cheap by any standard.

*I would generally discourage someone from trying to do it on a 32mm figure, much less in a scale this tiny.

I also want to do concrete and stonework effects on an 8' by 4' epic cityscape of dense roads and buildings, so will occasionally have need to paint big things, though am much more interested in the little side of things and doing that best.
This is really a different job and would almost require a separate AB. Certainly if you went with the Paasche Turbo you could only use it to paint small details on buildings.

Lastly generally how easy are airbrush use/techniques to master?
How long is a piece of string? Honestly, there's no way for someone else to answer this for another person; the things some experienced users consider to be pretty easily picked up in airbrushing clearly escape others - and continue to after years of use - so it's pretty obvious that individual mileage with them varies, and by how much.

Some results are more about vision (artistic vision, not eyesight) than about technique.

Einion
 

Eggroll

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I agree with Einion on the fact that airbrushing 6mm is really not that practical. The amount of time you'd spend changing paint in an airbrush would remove any efficiency benefits of using it in the first place. I've tried using my iwata airbrush (0.3mm needle) on 28mm minis and those are difficult enough as it is; I wouldn't want to think about what a nightmare it would be on a 6mm model.

Also, for costs be prepared to pay at least $400 USD. You'd want a high performance airbrush with a very tiny nozzle and they get more pricey as the nozzle size decreases. Also for a compressor that's silent, those cost more too since you can't really use the industrial ones from hardware stores. When I got my airbrush this past boxing day (Iwata Revolution BR), I picked it up for $115 Canadian dollars and then spent another $100 for a 3 gallon tank/compressor combo which is LOUD as hell. Add on another 90 bucks for the Iwata air hose, compressor line filter and parts to build my own spray booth and I'm over $300 easy.

As for using it, that's another battle in it itself. I find mixing paint to proper consistency and dialing in proper air pressure involves a lot of trail and error. The dual action wasn't too bad to get used to though I find myself with overspray now and then. If you're really serious about it, best to pick up an airbrush instructional dvds that teaches you the basic techniques on paper which you can easily translate to models later.

Good luck!
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
I've shot lots of things with my airbrushes. Wiggly kids, thick cake icing, t-shirts, cars, helmets, and soon boats.

Other than a base coat and maybe a clear coat, what do you expect to be able to do with an airbrush on 6mm minis? I could do some of the armor, base coat the space marines, maybe even add a highlight on the space marine armor - but that would be about the limit. (clear coat after).

And that could be done with a single action Badger or an Aztec.

With the Aztec and their spatter nozzle (the only reason I still keep one) you could be doing lots of the terrain you've talked about.

Either of those guns would be in your price range.

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Compressor:
Really quiet ones use the same compressor as your refrigerator. They start at around $600 and go seriously up from there.

Quiet ones: Badger/Iwata and a few others make a 1/10 HP to 1/5 HP diaphragm compressor. They will run a gun and generally max at about 30 usable PSI - plenty for terrain. Fairly quiet, about like a small fan. $100 - $250 depending on brand/options.

Hope that helps you save some money.
 

Tercha

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As noted above the uses of an airbrush in Epic would be limited to undercoating and basecoating even titans would not benefit that much from an airbrush over some good blending. However if you intend to make a lot of scenery to fight over, then it could come in handy!
If you are using it in a bedroom make sure the window is open! and it would be handy to have a sink for the constant cleaning that is needed.
In your situation I would invest the money in some decent paint brushes and a few different aerosols (for undercoating basecoating)
 

wouter1981

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6mm figures is way to smal for a normal airbrush use. I have a Harder and Steenbeck dual action airbrush with the smallest nozel and even that is only usable for 30mm miniatures and only for undercoating and some preshading. If I'm in a good mood, I use it to spray alclad metalizers, but then I have to mask the rest of the figure.

Airbrushes are usefull for bigger models (200mm) but for small miniatures, it will drive you crazy if you'll try to detail it with airbrush. Invest in some toprange brushes and paint. It will serve you a lot better.
 

Wyrmypops

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The idea of using an airbrush on Epic mini's does sound like you want to drive yourself insane. That is, if the intention is to use one to paint mini's in the manner airbrushes are employed in painting the larger figs.
Some of the larger epic vehicles could be appropriate for regular airbushing treatment though I guess, like airbrushed camoflage on Impy Guard Super Heavies.

An airbush could be a great shortcut for basecoats though. For a time GW did ikkle sprays of common basecolours that served to quickly cover a load of mini's with that most time consuming stage. Using an airbrush to replicate that effect could be a great idea. Got a load of Ultramarines, spraying everything blue would free up a load of time to spend on other, more fun stages.

I know I made use of sprays basecoats. Spraying bases green, and a blue spray on my Alaitoc guardians. Just had to splosh some blue ink for shading, and pick out the guns and helmets. Saved me some time to have fun with painting the Titans.
 

Einion

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It'd be nice if the OP would post back so we know if we're just talking to ourselves here...

:soldier:

Einion
 
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