Airbrush Noob needs some advice.

gilljoy

New member
Hey all,

I was lucky enough to receive an airbrush from my parents for my birthday :)

Hooked it up to my compressor and was giving it a test, I seem to be getting quite a dusty effect when spraying. I'm not sure if its the PSI I'm running at or something else. Anyone got any ideas?

Also could someone explain something to me, do I just thin with vallejo thinner and no water? Or use a mix of the two of them?
 

jlamarche

New member
What kind of airbrush? Double-action or single-action?

Could be your air pressure. At this scale, you'll probably want to shoot at no more than 15-20 PSI for minis, but you generally need to thin really well to spray at that pressure without clogging. The thicker the paint and the more impurities, the more likely you are to get clogs at low PSI. Some people will compensate by simply cranking up the pressure to force the crap through the nozzle, but generally not a good idea. Get your paint to the right consistency, don't force it through with more pressure.

Acrylic paints can be thinned with just water. I'm not sure what's in Vallejo thinner, but it's probably just water and maybe some acrylic mediums, possibly an extender. You want your paint to be about the consistency of whole milk. You don't want it water-thin, but you definitely don't want it too thick. You also don't want chunks of paint. You can strain the paint through cheese cloth or a fine metal strainer to get rid of congealed bits of paint, or you can buy an electric stirrer that will help make sure that everything is thoroughly mixed.

Something like this is great for mixing paint: http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-121-Paint/dp/B000BROV02/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

If you're using a single-action airbrush, it could be that you've got the nozzle closed down most of the way. Open it up and let a little more paint through and that might address the problem. It's also possible you used paint that was too thick and clogged up the works, in which case, you're probably going to need to take it apart and clean it (something you need to learn to do anyway). Taking apart an airbrush is actually pretty easy - if you search YouTube for your manufacturer and model number, there's a very good chance you'll find a video showing you how to take it apart and do a full cleaning. Ordinarily, you'll only need to do a full cleaning about once a month. Most of the time, just cleaning the cup, nozzle, and needle after use or between colors will be plenty.

But if you get crap stuck in the works, you have to do it. Metallic paints, pearlized paints, paints with glitter, anything along those lines are more likely to gum up the works than straight colors.

Also, you can use regular heavy body acrylic paints watered down. In the long run, that's going to be cheaper than mini paints, and at least as good quality if you buy good paints.

For practicing, go get yourself some craft paints and a pad of newsprint paper. Thin down the paints and practice, practice, practice. You need to get a feel for how much paint goes through the gun at different pressures and settings. Using an airbrush on minis is hard, but getting a feel for how much paint and how to aim will help. Newsprint is much cheaper than minis.

Not sure what else. There are lots of videos around YouTube showing how to use airbrushes. I'd highly recommend watching a few, and then it's just practice, practice, practice.
 

gilljoy

New member
Was playing about today and made some progress,

just thined the paints down properly and played about with psi and got it spraying rather nice.

Problem now is that the colour im using comes out very very blue :( (shadow grey) compared to how it comes out in the tutorial video i'm following. Still quite nice though.

Excuse the gloss varnish, going to do some washes and it helps the wash go into the groves via capillary action from what I've been told)

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looking at the photos it looks very grey there but in person it looks quite blue, as can be seen from the photo above
 

RuneBrush

New member
Looks like you've resolved the issues you were having. What tutorial vid are you following? Gloss vanish does help washes flow, generally it's used on vehicles once the piece is finished to weather, so will be interesting to see how you get on.

One thing I would say is that one of the benefits of an airbrush is that you can avoid parts of the mini if you want. For example I tend to avoid the base, head and large areas of fur when I do my wolves. It just makes it a bit easier when it comes to those areas.

pete
 

gilljoy

New member
Yea I'm going to try and avoid the face next time I'm spraying some, Still quite like how the wolf turned out this time especially for my first attempt with an airbrush.

Need to try and learn how to do gradients now for swords etc
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
You still have not said what make,model,type airbrush you are using. Dusty could also be humidity or just holding too far away.

What Color of primer is under the gray? Or it could be just the coat is too thin.
 
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gilljoy

New member
You still have not said what make,model,type airbrush you are using. Dusty could also be humidity or just holding too far away.

What Color of primer is under the gray? Or it could be just the coat is too thin.

I'm using an AB-180 airbrush from everything airbrush. I didnt want to buy a big name brand airbrush for my first one incase I didnt like it. Buying this meant I only needed a hose and the airbrush itself since I had a compressor.

I think your right about holding it too far away, still learning etc but the more I practice the better I'll get. The primer is halfords grey primer, its very close in colour to codex grey / cold grey (depending on your paint company of choice). Looking at picking up some vallejo airbrushable primer, will make base coating alot easier.

Quick question, I take it the best way of painting marines up quickly with an airbrush would be, spray shadow colour / preshade. Spray base colour leaving shadows at an angle and then spray highlight at a higher angle?
 

gilljoy

New member
Sorry for the double post,

quick update with my progress.

Quite pleased how it's turned out if not 100% certain about the colour scheme gona play about for a while.

 
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