A Couple of Questons

[HuronBH]

I have a few questions I have come across in my first read through of the rulebook and watching of the battle report posted 1/23 on the CMON Youtube site.

1. On page 9, under Line of Sight "What is Between", last sentence

" For example, a terrain element could provide cover if between a viewer and its target."

What exactly is cover and what protection or effect does it provide? Page 16, under Terrain Keywords "Generic Terrain Suggestions", Ancient Tree, also mentions Cover with no explanation.


2. Deepman Kaxes, pg 63, under the Sword Slice melee attack

"Sundering (1): Models targeted by this attack gain Resonate. This is done before attack dice are rolled."

Should the description after "Sundering (1):" be the description for "Sundering (x)" or; should the models have "Sundering (1)" and another ability with this description; or is it correct?


3. When the phrase "...and preform 1 of its melee attacks" is used what does that mean? is it a [1]die melee attack or one of the melee attack actions found on that models card? I read it as a full melee attack action found on the models card but I want to be sure. An example of this wording can be found in the Pelegrath Howl's "Inspire" ability or in the Arkazan Longhorn's "Clear A Path" special action.


4. In the battle report video posted on 1/23 to the CMON Youtube site, at the beginning of the video it is declared that the size of game being played is a Battle. However after adding up the costs of the models shown in each players army I noticed that each player was fielding a Skirmish sized army with 2 additional ranks of Specialists on top of what you could normally field. Also on closer viewing of the video players seems to be using the combined activation rules for a skirmish sized game.

Are the predesigned army size guides a hard and fast rule, or just what CMON suggests players should shoot for?


Thank you for answering my questions and I look forward to getting some games of WoK in in the future.


-jay

 

[urionfranz]

1 and 2. Wrath of Kings has a habit of not putting the description of an ability on a reference to that ability. You usually have to look up the ability on another card or in the glossary. So the attack has Sunder (1) and give the model attacked Resonate. Unfortunately the pdf doesn't have the rule for cover in it, but it replaces the top Hit with a Cover against Ranged attacks, which is irrelevant since their are no Ranged attacks currently in the game.
3. "performs one of its attacks" doesn't limit the dice used unless it says it does, Such as Counter Attack.
4. All of the videos on the website are out of date and cannot be relied upon to be accurate.
There are only 3 levels of play. They are specific.

 

[HuronBH]

Hey, thank you for the response. a few questions.

1. Where are you seeing your interpretation of Cover? I asked all my question based on the Hardback rulebook and find no mention of cover in it.

2. I am aware of the referencing. After asking the question I noticed that the formatting on the cards is generally much clear then the entries in the hardback. If anyone else has a problem with a models rules from the rulebook I suggest looking at the card first before asking a question.

3. So you are saying "performs one of its attacks" mean make an attack action, right?

4. A new video was posted on 1/23 by CMON using the current and correct rules. I was just questioning the level of play and whether or not the structure was more flexible then it appeared, which it appears that it is.


-jay

 

[Swan]

Huron, there was a previous rule set that was released that explained cover, basically cover changes the lowest strike to a cover symbol against ranged attacks. This does not seem to have made it into the new rule book, but the new rule book still references it, guess this will have to go into the errata for the game

Urionfranz is incorrect in the statement that there is no ranged attacks in the game, there are many models in the game with ranged attacks, most of these are found on the specialists of the different factions, though there are others (such as a Ravenscar Sergeant) that also have ranged attacks.

As Urion said, when it states to make a melee attack, you may choose any melee attack and roll the number of dice associated with that attack. It will state the number of dice you roll in the description if it is different than what the melee attack gives.

As for the video, Mr. Black did state that there were a few issues that they saw post production. It was a skirmish game with 2 additional ranks of Specialists, so while it did not follow the standard rules, if people agree, you can modify your game setup in friendly games. As for Combined activations, these are used in any size game that you play, but I think I see what you are saying, that even though it was a skirmish game, they gave their leaders Battle Game sized command. I would just take the the video more as a visual introduction on how the figs look and feel on the table, and not get too caught up in the technical aspect. If you follow the rules in the book you should be fine, but I agree with you on hte cover issue, that needs to be fixed.

 

[HuronBH]

Thank you for the clarifications.

Two things:

1. Thank you for explaining the origin of the cover rules. Personally I am going to choose to ignore the word cover until there is an official errata as the rules you and Urionfranz described are from a previous rule set and not the current one.

2. As far the command for the youtube game, I am pretty sure they used the skirmish sized command actually. As far as I can tell the command model never activated more then 7 models and there is actually a point in the video where the Hadross player says that their commander moved to far away so they can only activate 5 deepmen guardian with the other leaders command.


-jay

 

[Swan]

See, even better, that part falls right in line with the army size used

 

[urionfranz]

Name one attack that is a Ranged attack. Not a Magic Attack or a Will Attack, but a Ranged attack.

 

[Swan]

Well, by game rules any attack that has a range that is not a melee attack is a ranged attack, but if it makes you feel better how about

Ravenscar Sergeant's Heavy Crossbow attack

 

[urionfranz]

You are incorrect. A Ranged attack is a specific type of attack. Check page 12 under attack actions. It has its own set of rules. It is not simply an attack with a distance further than 00. But you are correct about the Sergeant's attack. Which seems to be the only one.